A funny thing happened on the way to Absolute Zero United today...
I haven't been visiting them lately because I have a life, but I thought I'd breeze through the site to see what I missed. And what I saw today had me laughing so hard I almost fell out of my chair! It seems a noob has entered the criminal-den, trying to suck up to the established cyber-criminals, with disasterous results LOL:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/absolutezero/3027388666207502371/
(The comments from "chalk one up for the pedos")
I have a theory- nay, a DREAM- that the Z in ZandJsmom stands for "Zandir." Mrs. Drejaj, is that you? lameo 06.26.08 - 4:26 pm
I suggest you apologize to me immediately, Lameo. How dare you insinuate that I am at all connected to this piece of filth. Stitches for one knows full well who and where I am. Bite me.ZandJsMom 06.26.08 - 7:33 pm
I expect the apology to come quickly. That was over the top. ZandJsMom has history here.Stitchesstitches77 Homepage 06.26.08 - 7:42 pm
"I have a theory- nay, a DREAM- that the Z in ZandJsmom stands for "Zandir." Mrs. Drejaj, is that you?"See how quickly the antis turn against you.You fucking moron.zandir Homepage 06.26.08 - 7:59 pm (NOTE: ROTLFMAO!)
People, I am sorry for any harm or damage I might have caused for what was a scare tactic targeted at a pedophile and not a personal attack. Also, I am sorry about a passing statement that is now being used to pick apart my character. It was simply my opinion on one thing which in no way indicates an opposition to the purpose of AZU or anti-pedophilia activism, WHICH I AM A PART OF.lameo 06.26.08 - 8:02 pm (NOTE: So here is the apology, but catch ZandJ'smom's reply-- obviously hukd on fonix didn't wurk 4 her!)
Still waiting on that apology here, LAMEo. ZandJsMom 06.26.08 - 8:14 pm (NOTE: imagine that-- me agreeing with an anti. Maybe with this miracle, I can turn lead into gold too!)
Oh, and did you just call me a "fool?" What are you, a YuGiOh villain? lameo 06.26.08 - 8:20 pm (I'm sure most of the AZholes are indeed villains, too bad unlike YuGiOh cards, are entirely worthless)
It pretty much goes on back to their original intent of harassing people from there but i was nice to read a few lines of trouble in paradise.
Oh and the while blasting a politician:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/absolutezero/3426745245933862473/
Commenting on "I'm going to rip them apart")
YOU GUYS, READ THIS-I hate to admit this, but I have just found out that this quote is, fortunately, taken out of context. He was speaking about the welfare of children who have to testify. Now I look like an idiot for writing about it and making all my friends read.
I'm not yelling at you for not doing your homework, but please read this. lameo 06.26.08 - 5:45 pm (NOTE: OMG! Lameo just committed the cardinal sin! He actually told azu they DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK!!!! ROTFLMAO!)
lameo nothing was taken out of context. The passage you quoted means exactly the same as the one quoted in the post.As we've explained numerous times to so many pedos, a quote can only be taken out of context if it takes on a different meaning.It truly troubles me that you're having a problem understanding this. Daydreamer of Oz 06.26.08 - 6:30 pm (NOTE: This coming from the idiot that called the Pope a pedo-enabler)
Really? I'm definitely seeing a different meaning there. He's saying that children shouldn't be interrogated. lameo 06.26.08 - 6:39 pm
Really? I'm definitely seeing a different meaning there.I'm not. He's still saying he'll "rip kids apart" and he's still saying he will defend his clients more vehemently if they're facing a life sentence as opposed to any other sentence.He's saying that children shouldn't be interrogated.He didn't say that at all.Daydreamer of Oz 06.26.08 - 6:54 pm (NOTE: Yeah- that's what defense attorneys are Supposed to do, Dumbasser of Oz)
"Okay, let's agree to disagree. I am obviously fighting for the same things as you guys"I don't know any such thing at all. You're making some very iffy remarks that disturb me.Stitches stitches77 06.26.08 - 7:35 pm (NOTE: Yeah, we know truth make you iffy, Bitches of the seventy and seven brain cells)
Okay, that's a little much. I am a victim and a survivor who has been on this board fighting vehemently against pedophiles. I simply interpret that one quote differently. I am certainly not arguing with the fact your interpretation makes Fagan a degenerate. It's not that big of a deal and certainly no reason to question my intentions, which, by the way, breaks my heart. lameo 06.26.08 - 7:42 pm (NOTE: Awww poor Lame-o. Didn't you know Bitches likes people to brown nose and enable her LIES? Stick with YuGiOh cards, dude)
"which, by the way, breaks my heart."Imagine how ZandJsMom's felt Stitches stitches77 Homepage 06.26.08 - 7:46 pm (NOTE: Apparently elephants and skank hos never forget. Guess what? She will bring this up in 2068, when you're in the nursing home too)
I can't believe I'm being vilified. This is ridiculous. I am one of you. I'm not arguing against any of your principles or ANYTHING. I just disagreed with the interpretation of ONE QUOTE. You are making a mountain of a mole hill. lameo 06.26.08 - 7:54 pm
"which, by the way, breaks my heart."Imagine how ZandJsMom's felt"Thank you Stitches, I appreciate that. Rather though than being heartbroken by being insulted by a pedophile or one of their sympathizers, its more a feeling of revulsion, like when a nasty insect skitters over your shoe.ZandJsMom 06.26.08 - 7:54 pm (NOTE: So lameo is a "pedo sympathizer" because lameo hurt the feelings of one of the AZholes. Now you know what it takes to be a pedo enabler in the eyes of AZU, my friends)
" I can't believe I'm being vilified. This is ridiculous. I am one of you"That remains to be seen. You can't even decide where you are or if you're male or female. Maybe that's why you flip-flop Stitches stitches77 Homepage 06.26.08 - 8:02 pm (NOTE: I recall stitchbitch was defending a homosexual not too long ago. Stitches flip flops on more issues than Barack Osama)
I can't? I've never claimed to be either. And as for the first part? Fine. lameo 06.26.08 - 8:10 pm
You gotta love these kinds of exchanges. No honor among thieves. Keep them coming, you filthy AZU douchebags!
Founded in 2008, ABSOLUTE ZERO UNITES is a blog covering corrupt politicians and vigilantes who abuse sex offense registries to commit crimes (murder, assault, harassment, vandalism). This is a journalism blog; all articles posted in this blog is covered by Fair Use under 17 USC 107. All opinions are my own, and all persons featured here are (IMHO, of course) criminals and assorted losers.
Friday, June 27, 2008
Thursday, June 5, 2008
When Trolls Attack!
There is a reason why I consider Absolute Zero United a criminal organization. All you have to do is visit the www.sexoffenderalliance.com/forums site. Around the end of May, the forums shut down after the AZholes invaded the site.
What is Sex Offender Alliance? It was allegedly a treatment-oriented website for former offenders. I had my suspicious about SOA being a front for the AZholes, a reservation shared by many individuals. Whatever the case, the AZholes had invaded the site around the middle of April 2008. A few of the former offenders naively thought that this was an opprtunity to meet on "neutral ground." Personally I didn't refer to SOA as "neutral ground." Whether Metanoid, the head of SOA was simply naive or had an ulterior motive, the fact remains that the AZholes took advantage of the situation.
Think about this, who in their right mind would go to a sex offender treatment place and post written child porn? Why would a sex offender treatment provider advocate taking abuse from other people knowing that stress could potentially trigger relapse? What did the AZholes have to gain from attacking not only a treatment provider but a VICTIM of a sex crime as well? And how was it that SOA user info was taken to be placed on Wikisposure when some of the people never even visited an AZU site before? There are a lot of unanswered questions.
If SOA was an AZ front, then good riddence. But what if it was legit? Then it stands as a testament to the idiocracy of the AZholes. You see, they CLAIM to be victim advoates. But in reality, its about hurting people. Are you a victim of a sex crime, but decided to treat the offender instead of beat the offender? Then they'll accuse you of a "sick pedophile fantasy." Like they once said it doesn't matter if you're the Pope, they'll call you a pedo enabler too!
The bottom line is this-- there is NO GOOD to come from the AZholes. If they enter the site, kick them off, PERIOD. They're nothing but a bunch of worthless fucks who enjoy making people miserable. You have two choices, ignore them, or fuck with them twice as bad like I do. If you stand up to them, you'll win. If you submit to the AZholes and kiss their asses like Metanoid over at SOA did, then you'll end up like SOA. Don't lay down and take it in the ass! Fight back!!!
What is Sex Offender Alliance? It was allegedly a treatment-oriented website for former offenders. I had my suspicious about SOA being a front for the AZholes, a reservation shared by many individuals. Whatever the case, the AZholes had invaded the site around the middle of April 2008. A few of the former offenders naively thought that this was an opprtunity to meet on "neutral ground." Personally I didn't refer to SOA as "neutral ground." Whether Metanoid, the head of SOA was simply naive or had an ulterior motive, the fact remains that the AZholes took advantage of the situation.
Think about this, who in their right mind would go to a sex offender treatment place and post written child porn? Why would a sex offender treatment provider advocate taking abuse from other people knowing that stress could potentially trigger relapse? What did the AZholes have to gain from attacking not only a treatment provider but a VICTIM of a sex crime as well? And how was it that SOA user info was taken to be placed on Wikisposure when some of the people never even visited an AZU site before? There are a lot of unanswered questions.
If SOA was an AZ front, then good riddence. But what if it was legit? Then it stands as a testament to the idiocracy of the AZholes. You see, they CLAIM to be victim advoates. But in reality, its about hurting people. Are you a victim of a sex crime, but decided to treat the offender instead of beat the offender? Then they'll accuse you of a "sick pedophile fantasy." Like they once said it doesn't matter if you're the Pope, they'll call you a pedo enabler too!
The bottom line is this-- there is NO GOOD to come from the AZholes. If they enter the site, kick them off, PERIOD. They're nothing but a bunch of worthless fucks who enjoy making people miserable. You have two choices, ignore them, or fuck with them twice as bad like I do. If you stand up to them, you'll win. If you submit to the AZholes and kiss their asses like Metanoid over at SOA did, then you'll end up like SOA. Don't lay down and take it in the ass! Fight back!!!
Sunday, May 18, 2008
AZU ENCOURAGES VIGILANTISM! So Does Family Watchdog!
AZU denies they promote vigilante violence, but below is an exchange I had via IM by one AZ member who set up an anonymous account just to harass me:
myaccount238: If there is another Ohio rally, I will drive there to spit in your
face
me: That would be a big mistake
myaccount238: we'll see how tough you are quiverteeth
me: Better bring backup
me: By the way spitting is assault
me: You'd be arrested on the spot
Me: Your husband would be so jealous
(Thanks for being stupid AZU by the way. By the way they did call me "great"-- Thanks for the compliments LOL
myaccount238: You will win in court, sue everyone, and live happily ever after
myaccount238: ***** the great
Me: That's the plan
Me: Thanks for admitting I'm great)
By the way, AZU is pretty open about encouraging vigilantism. For example, AZU numbnut Carisma came to the rescue of Travis Metcalf, a man who was cited for disorderly conduct for threatening a sex offnder in public:
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comments
Metcalf admits he lost control of his emotions.
“I was screaming at the top of my lungs at him,” said the 34-year-old Metcalf, a husband and a father of three children, ages 14, 12 and 5. “I ended up getting a ticket for disorderly conduct out of the deal.”
And Travis Metcalf should have gotten more, in my opinion, to teach people a hard lesson about vigilante violence. And he isn't learning his lesson:
"Despite his June 25 court date, Metcalf said he is keeping the pressure on Larsen by distributing fliers with Larsen’s picture and identifying information, and Metcalf is attempting to organize a 'parent watch' to raise public awareness. "
So it is NO surprise he fits in with AZU. So says Carisma:
By carimsa
May 11, 2008 10:14 PM
"Any parent would have done the same thing as Metcalf. He didn't assault him, he called him on it! Thank god he did."
No, any good parent would have called the cops and presented evidence of the former offender's improprieties. Not only is vigilante violence illegal, but DANGEROUS! Oh but there's more:
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61312103
By BRD
May 12, 2008 10:38 AM Link to this
"We (that count) are all behind you, Travis Metcalf! Let us know what you need." Yep! Keep up the good work! Travis hurt no one and only saved a child! [Note: He only hurt no one because the cops showed up]
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61334803
By Stitches77
May 12, 2008 11:12 AM
Metcalf is a hero and it appears the only people who don't realize it are guys who would think there's nothing wrong with lurking outside a preschool hiding in a bush.
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61163403
By Stitches77
May 12, 2008 4:23 AM Link to this
Shouting at a man who is hiding in a bush outside a preschool is Not harassment.
These people don't seem to understand you just don't get a citation for "doing the right thing." Getting up and threatening a person is NOT "doing the right thing." CALLING THE COPS WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING WRONG IS THE RIGHT THING!
Think about THIS folks, why is it Absolute Zero United hides their identity? Why aren't they touted as "heroes" for their work? Because cyberstalking, abuse of the registry, harassment, and threats of violence are ILLEGAL, that's why. They are CRIMINALS, plain and simple. Thugs.
By the way, why would a site like Family Watchdog tell people the first thing to do is to get up in people's faces. Read the article again:
Steve Roddel, president and CEO of Family Watchdog, said the 3-year-old site is updated throughout the day with the latest information available. He said he is unable to chastise people like Metcalf who use the site as a tool to protect their children and their community.
“It would be awfully hard for me to find fault with someone who is out trying to protect his community,” Roddel said.
He added that if a convicted sex offender is displaying high-risk behaviors, like hanging out at parks and schools with a puppy, that person should be confronted and made aware that he is being watched.
Tell them you know who they are, and, ‘You are not going to do it on my watch,’ ” Roddel said. “I wouldn’t necessarily call it overreacting.”
What happened to "if you see a crime call the police?" Duh. Someone shove the Watchmutt's nose in the shit they're shoveling! What if that guy had been packing heat? You don't just get up in a guy's face, that's a potentially dangerous situation. Hell, pull out a video camera, take pics, turn over to police, and the guy would have been in jail. Simple as 1-2-3! Of course, leave it to Family Watchdog and Absolute Zero United to put two and two together and only come up with three!
Oh yeah, one last thing, someone pointed out that I needed to add the following:
Note: The following information is provided as an awareness tool so that you can adequately protect yourself and your children from these individuals. The use of the sex offender registry information to harass, endanger, intimidate, threaten or in any way seek retribution on an offender through illegal channels is prohibited. Any person who engages or participates in such acts may be charged criminally."
And on the FamilyWatchDog TOS, it states:"Harassment, stalking, or threatening anyone on this list likely violates your state law and is neither condoned nor encouraged by Family Watchdog, its directors or employees."
So its not only illegal to use the registry info to harass people, it violates the Family Watchmutt TOS too! Then Roddel contradicts his own company. A classic!
myaccount238: If there is another Ohio rally, I will drive there to spit in your
face
me: That would be a big mistake
myaccount238: we'll see how tough you are quiverteeth
me: Better bring backup
me: By the way spitting is assault
me: You'd be arrested on the spot
Me: Your husband would be so jealous
(Thanks for being stupid AZU by the way. By the way they did call me "great"-- Thanks for the compliments LOL
myaccount238: You will win in court, sue everyone, and live happily ever after
myaccount238: ***** the great
Me: That's the plan
Me: Thanks for admitting I'm great)
By the way, AZU is pretty open about encouraging vigilantism. For example, AZU numbnut Carisma came to the rescue of Travis Metcalf, a man who was cited for disorderly conduct for threatening a sex offnder in public:
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comments
Metcalf admits he lost control of his emotions.
“I was screaming at the top of my lungs at him,” said the 34-year-old Metcalf, a husband and a father of three children, ages 14, 12 and 5. “I ended up getting a ticket for disorderly conduct out of the deal.”
And Travis Metcalf should have gotten more, in my opinion, to teach people a hard lesson about vigilante violence. And he isn't learning his lesson:
"Despite his June 25 court date, Metcalf said he is keeping the pressure on Larsen by distributing fliers with Larsen’s picture and identifying information, and Metcalf is attempting to organize a 'parent watch' to raise public awareness. "
So it is NO surprise he fits in with AZU. So says Carisma:
By carimsa
May 11, 2008 10:14 PM
"Any parent would have done the same thing as Metcalf. He didn't assault him, he called him on it! Thank god he did."
No, any good parent would have called the cops and presented evidence of the former offender's improprieties. Not only is vigilante violence illegal, but DANGEROUS! Oh but there's more:
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61312103
By BRD
May 12, 2008 10:38 AM Link to this
"We (that count) are all behind you, Travis Metcalf! Let us know what you need." Yep! Keep up the good work! Travis hurt no one and only saved a child! [Note: He only hurt no one because the cops showed up]
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61334803
By Stitches77
May 12, 2008 11:12 AM
Metcalf is a hero and it appears the only people who don't realize it are guys who would think there's nothing wrong with lurking outside a preschool hiding in a bush.
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61163403
By Stitches77
May 12, 2008 4:23 AM Link to this
Shouting at a man who is hiding in a bush outside a preschool is Not harassment.
These people don't seem to understand you just don't get a citation for "doing the right thing." Getting up and threatening a person is NOT "doing the right thing." CALLING THE COPS WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING WRONG IS THE RIGHT THING!
Think about THIS folks, why is it Absolute Zero United hides their identity? Why aren't they touted as "heroes" for their work? Because cyberstalking, abuse of the registry, harassment, and threats of violence are ILLEGAL, that's why. They are CRIMINALS, plain and simple. Thugs.
By the way, why would a site like Family Watchdog tell people the first thing to do is to get up in people's faces. Read the article again:
Steve Roddel, president and CEO of Family Watchdog, said the 3-year-old site is updated throughout the day with the latest information available. He said he is unable to chastise people like Metcalf who use the site as a tool to protect their children and their community.
“It would be awfully hard for me to find fault with someone who is out trying to protect his community,” Roddel said.
He added that if a convicted sex offender is displaying high-risk behaviors, like hanging out at parks and schools with a puppy, that person should be confronted and made aware that he is being watched.
Tell them you know who they are, and, ‘You are not going to do it on my watch,’ ” Roddel said. “I wouldn’t necessarily call it overreacting.”
What happened to "if you see a crime call the police?" Duh. Someone shove the Watchmutt's nose in the shit they're shoveling! What if that guy had been packing heat? You don't just get up in a guy's face, that's a potentially dangerous situation. Hell, pull out a video camera, take pics, turn over to police, and the guy would have been in jail. Simple as 1-2-3! Of course, leave it to Family Watchdog and Absolute Zero United to put two and two together and only come up with three!
Oh yeah, one last thing, someone pointed out that I needed to add the following:
Note: The following information is provided as an awareness tool so that you can adequately protect yourself and your children from these individuals. The use of the sex offender registry information to harass, endanger, intimidate, threaten or in any way seek retribution on an offender through illegal channels is prohibited. Any person who engages or participates in such acts may be charged criminally."
And on the FamilyWatchDog TOS, it states:"Harassment, stalking, or threatening anyone on this list likely violates your state law and is neither condoned nor encouraged by Family Watchdog, its directors or employees."
So its not only illegal to use the registry info to harass people, it violates the Family Watchmutt TOS too! Then Roddel contradicts his own company. A classic!
Friday, May 2, 2008
The Common Thread
Today, I thought we'd play a fun game. Anyone who knows me knows I'm not a fan of Mark Lunsford. Well, if you haven't heard, Lunsford's 18 year old son, Joshua, was arrested for sexual conduct with a 14 year old girl. Now Lunsford speaks out AGAINST "Romeo and Juliets" (where he never did before) being sex offenses.
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2007/05/31/jessica-lunsford%E2%80%99s-brother-accused-of-sex-crime/
Court records indicate that the teenager allegedly put his hands down the pants of his 14-year-old girlfriend while they were kissing. Because the alleged incidents occurred less than two months after Joshua turned 18, he has been charged with a fourth degree felony.
The girl’s father pleaded guilty earlier this year to trying to choke Joshua.
Mark Lunsford has been quoted as saying that his son’s arrest doesn’t compare with the pedophiles whom he has helped to put in prison. “We’re talking about Romeo and Juliet here, not some 36-year-old pervert following around a 10-year-old”, Lunsford told a Florida newspaper. He is not the boy’s custodial parent and the boy does not live with him.
When asked how he felt about his son being labeled a sex offender if he was convicted, Lunsford said that “we have to learn to distinguish between Romeo and Juliet and a predator. We need to redefine the term ‘sex offender’, not ‘predator’”.
I brought this up not to debate that issue. I want you to compare that to the comments AZU mmber Petra Luna made on 20/20 back on March 14, 2008 (The corrupted- justice link is a transcript of the segment):
http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel (go to videos, look for "Vigilante Justice")
http://www.corrupted-justice.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9204
Stossel-- Arent some people on the registries kids who at age 16 had sex with another kid?
Peta Luna-- [rolls eyes] Yeah [sighs and shifts in chair] but that's not very likely, but it does happen and yes it-it-you know kids do end up you know one is right on the edge of the age and one is right on the edge of the age yes it does happen
Stossel-- They get put on the registry with 40 year old rapists
Petra Luna-- yeah but what are you gonna do? I mean its too bad that they have those things going on but its a necessary evil
Then, of course, AZU offers up this little gem:
http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/2008/03/common-thread.html
"Watch for someone who defends an 18 year old for having sex with a 14 year old, then when asked the question "Would you have done it if she had been 12?" the response being "Oh NO, absolutely not, there must be a 'line' somewhere" Completely overlooking the fact that there WAS a line and it was crossed.
All those things are known as spin. Those are things you need to watch out for. Spin is an unethical manipulation of factual information to make something appear to mean something that in reality it does not mean.Spin is evil.Spin is enabling behavior.The Antis won't stand for it."
So AZU recognizes that the 18 year old having sexual contact with his 14 year old girlfriend on the 20/20 show was crossing a line. You have to watch for someone who defends this behavior. But yet, Mark Lunsford just did the same thing, stating his 18 year old son french kissing and fondling a 14 year old, and AZU is amazingly quiet about the issue.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/absolutezero/5807725979958780816/
"Hasn't the Lundsford family been through enough?" Daydreamer of Oz
So let me get this straight. You CONDEMNED Patty Wetterling, who has NEVER received closure for a kidnapped son, claiming she has a sex offender son. But Mark Lunsford has "suffered enough." If you goggle Patty Wetterling, you find no scandals attached to her name. However, if you google Mark Lunsfords name, a number of controversies will come up:
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2007/05/31/jessica-lunsford%E2%80%99s-brother-accused-of-sex-crime/
Court records indicate that the teenager allegedly put his hands down the pants of his 14-year-old girlfriend while they were kissing. Because the alleged incidents occurred less than two months after Joshua turned 18, he has been charged with a fourth degree felony.
The girl’s father pleaded guilty earlier this year to trying to choke Joshua.
Mark Lunsford has been quoted as saying that his son’s arrest doesn’t compare with the pedophiles whom he has helped to put in prison. “We’re talking about Romeo and Juliet here, not some 36-year-old pervert following around a 10-year-old”, Lunsford told a Florida newspaper. He is not the boy’s custodial parent and the boy does not live with him.
When asked how he felt about his son being labeled a sex offender if he was convicted, Lunsford said that “we have to learn to distinguish between Romeo and Juliet and a predator. We need to redefine the term ‘sex offender’, not ‘predator’”.
I brought this up not to debate that issue. I want you to compare that to the comments AZU mmber Petra Luna made on 20/20 back on March 14, 2008 (The corrupted- justice link is a transcript of the segment):
http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel (go to videos, look for "Vigilante Justice")
http://www.corrupted-justice.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9204
Stossel-- Arent some people on the registries kids who at age 16 had sex with another kid?
Peta Luna-- [rolls eyes] Yeah [sighs and shifts in chair] but that's not very likely, but it does happen and yes it-it-you know kids do end up you know one is right on the edge of the age and one is right on the edge of the age yes it does happen
Stossel-- They get put on the registry with 40 year old rapists
Petra Luna-- yeah but what are you gonna do? I mean its too bad that they have those things going on but its a necessary evil
Then, of course, AZU offers up this little gem:
http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/2008/03/common-thread.html
"Watch for someone who defends an 18 year old for having sex with a 14 year old, then when asked the question "Would you have done it if she had been 12?" the response being "Oh NO, absolutely not, there must be a 'line' somewhere" Completely overlooking the fact that there WAS a line and it was crossed.
All those things are known as spin. Those are things you need to watch out for. Spin is an unethical manipulation of factual information to make something appear to mean something that in reality it does not mean.Spin is evil.Spin is enabling behavior.The Antis won't stand for it."
So AZU recognizes that the 18 year old having sexual contact with his 14 year old girlfriend on the 20/20 show was crossing a line. You have to watch for someone who defends this behavior. But yet, Mark Lunsford just did the same thing, stating his 18 year old son french kissing and fondling a 14 year old, and AZU is amazingly quiet about the issue.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/absolutezero/5807725979958780816/
"Hasn't the Lundsford family been through enough?" Daydreamer of Oz
So let me get this straight. You CONDEMNED Patty Wetterling, who has NEVER received closure for a kidnapped son, claiming she has a sex offender son. But Mark Lunsford has "suffered enough." If you goggle Patty Wetterling, you find no scandals attached to her name. However, if you google Mark Lunsfords name, a number of controversies will come up:
- Child Porn on his computer
- Questionable use of funds and gifts to the Jessica Marie Lunsford Foundation
- His recent lawsuit diected at the sheriff
- And don't forget the defense of his son after charged with a sex offense
Yet, they lambaste someone for questioning Lunsford's motives:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/absolutezero/5193128263467108490/
******* is a complete Sociopath and her recent actions illustrate just how "reformed" she is.What a sick example of psychology she is, attacking the parents of children who were murdered and sexually abused; harassing, threatening and libeling innocent people with allegations of child pornography and child molestation. Someone so senseless and devoid of boundaries belongs in either a prison or a mental hospital.jacey
http://imposteralert.blogspot.com/search/label/Mark%20Lunsford
Petra Luna's chief space cadet denounces anti-Lunsford sites, and states its perfectly okay to be involved in controversy.
"I don’t know anyone named Josh Junsford. But if you’re talking about Josh Lunsford he’s a perfect example of how very few people are put on the sex offender registry for having teenaged sex."
Well VigilantAnti, do you know him or not? Its not like it wasn't mentioned in every true crime, RSO, and curent events blog in the country
So why is it Lunsford hasn't been dragged through the ringer like they have done to so many others? Maybe this is the reason:
http://206.130.112.50/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/archive/JMLFoundation/20060709133402/
WASP "Women Against Sexual Predators" A new and vibrant proactive subcommittee called WASP has been added to the Jessica Marie Lunsford Foundation.For more information.Please contact Penny Verde at usa4jmllaw@yahoo.com or call 1.888.4jmllaw
Yep. Tracy Golden (WASP Ohio) is connected to Lunsford, Tracy is also connected to AZU. AZU is connected to PJ and Wikisposure. WASP Ohio contributes to both places. Xavier Von Erck posts comments at AZ. The sites link to one another very intimately, refer to each other, etc.
AZU warns us about people who defend 18 year olds who mess with 14 year olds, but they stand by their man Lunsford. Sounds a bit like hypocrisy to me. Either you CONDEMN an action or you DENOUNCE an action. Will AZU continue to stand by Mark Lunsford?
Hypocrisy is evil.
Hypocrisy is enabling behavior.
The anti-antis won't stand for it!
Thursday, May 1, 2008
Give me what I want and I will go away
Finally, after two and a half weeks of running this little operation, the AZU crew finally tried to post a response up at this site. Sorry but I had to reject your post. But now that I have your attention, y'all, I have a few demands if you want this silly war to end.
It is no fun when you get a taste of our own medicine, is it now? For months you have attacked people whose only "crime" was speak out against a series of oppressive laws directed at former offenders. You mock their looks. You laugh at their plight. You call them "pedoheads/freaks," do silly videos and posts at your site and work hand in hand with the PJ cult. You put activists against these oppressive laws or anyone who isn't as zealous as you in killing all sex offenders in the same breath as NAMBLA and Boy/Girl love or whatever the hell its called (apparently you guys spend a lot of time there).
Anyways, your hypersensitivity has led you to some interesting observations. You evade straight questions, opting instead to goad us into coming to your hate site. AZU has no helpful info, just hate and idiotic comments; sometimes I wonder if you make up the "enemies" that post there. You spin everything so much I wonder if you can read anything straight. Seriously, AZU needs professional help.
There are many people who have suffered all sorts of terrible things in their lives. It is sad, it is wrong and it is unfair. But that gives you NO RIGHT to project your anger onto others. That makes you a criminal no matter what your reasons are.
That being said, the only way Unites will disappear is when I see you stop attacking former offenders who are not re-offending. I will stop when you stop engaging in criminal harassment, stalking, and threatening others, infringing on their privacy, and chasing them all over the internet. Only then will I go away. If you put that effort into teaching prevention and accountability rather than in trying to hurt others, we would be far closer to a solution to reducing sexual violence in America. Instead, you take the low road, harassing and trying to intimidate others. You tricks don't work with me. I am not intimidated by you.
AZUnites merely does what you have done to others. Isn't not so fun now is it? If it hurt you, imagine what it has done to others. But that's how I see what you do. You hurt others, for what reasons, I don't care. Its no excuse. Bottom line, when you straighten up and become the victim advocate you CLAIM to be rather than the cyberthugs you are, then I'll be happy to call a truce. Until then AZUnites! is here to stay.
It is no fun when you get a taste of our own medicine, is it now? For months you have attacked people whose only "crime" was speak out against a series of oppressive laws directed at former offenders. You mock their looks. You laugh at their plight. You call them "pedoheads/freaks," do silly videos and posts at your site and work hand in hand with the PJ cult. You put activists against these oppressive laws or anyone who isn't as zealous as you in killing all sex offenders in the same breath as NAMBLA and Boy/Girl love or whatever the hell its called (apparently you guys spend a lot of time there).
Anyways, your hypersensitivity has led you to some interesting observations. You evade straight questions, opting instead to goad us into coming to your hate site. AZU has no helpful info, just hate and idiotic comments; sometimes I wonder if you make up the "enemies" that post there. You spin everything so much I wonder if you can read anything straight. Seriously, AZU needs professional help.
There are many people who have suffered all sorts of terrible things in their lives. It is sad, it is wrong and it is unfair. But that gives you NO RIGHT to project your anger onto others. That makes you a criminal no matter what your reasons are.
That being said, the only way Unites will disappear is when I see you stop attacking former offenders who are not re-offending. I will stop when you stop engaging in criminal harassment, stalking, and threatening others, infringing on their privacy, and chasing them all over the internet. Only then will I go away. If you put that effort into teaching prevention and accountability rather than in trying to hurt others, we would be far closer to a solution to reducing sexual violence in America. Instead, you take the low road, harassing and trying to intimidate others. You tricks don't work with me. I am not intimidated by you.
AZUnites merely does what you have done to others. Isn't not so fun now is it? If it hurt you, imagine what it has done to others. But that's how I see what you do. You hurt others, for what reasons, I don't care. Its no excuse. Bottom line, when you straighten up and become the victim advocate you CLAIM to be rather than the cyberthugs you are, then I'll be happy to call a truce. Until then AZUnites! is here to stay.
Monday, April 28, 2008
Daydreamer of Oz-- Dumbass In Denial
http://forums.sexoffenderalliance.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1605
In response to an article in which the FBI plans to monitor suspected cyerterrorist activity, AZU alum Daydreamer of Oz offers up this idiotic statement:
daydreamerofoz
Post subject: Re: FBI wants widespread monitoring of illegal Internet activity
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:49 pm
"I don't have a problem with it because I do not engage in illegal activity."
OH REALLY? Then what's this?
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/arizona/azdce/2:2008cv00054/366532/
"Kruska v. Perverted Justice Foundation Incorporated.Org et al
Plaintiff Kruska sued Perverted Justice Foundation Incorporated (www.corporatesexoffenders.com and wikisposure project), Xavier Von Erck a/k/a Phillip John Eide, Christopher Brocious (absolutezerounited.blogspot.com, absolutezerounited.com and absolutezerounited.org), Barbara W. Ochoa a/k/a Petra Luna, Filmax Inc. (www.jankruska.com and www.jankruska.net), April Butler, David M. Butler, Godaddy.com, Bob Parsons, and MySpace.com. Plaintiff seeks to enjoin Defendants from posting on their website claims that Plaintiff is a predator, pedophile, child molester and pro-pedophile. Plaintiff also charges defendants with intentional infliction of emotional distress, defamation, cyberstalking and violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act."
Absolute Zero United is among the organizations implicated in a FEDERAL LAWSUIT for CYBERTERRORISM! A lawsuit they will LOSE! WOW! Its like the kid with frosting on his face, afer ask him, "Did you get into the cake?" he says with his mouthful of cake, "MMM-NO"
This is just too funny for words!
Funny. Stitches 77 claims it was WASP Ohio whoposted some crap about me on their trollspot earlier in the year. WASP Ohio claimes it was Stitches 77. I say they're ALL guilty. That means YOU, Ozzie-boy
In response to an article in which the FBI plans to monitor suspected cyerterrorist activity, AZU alum Daydreamer of Oz offers up this idiotic statement:
daydreamerofoz
Post subject: Re: FBI wants widespread monitoring of illegal Internet activity
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:49 pm
"I don't have a problem with it because I do not engage in illegal activity."
OH REALLY? Then what's this?
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/arizona/azdce/2:2008cv00054/366532/
"Kruska v. Perverted Justice Foundation Incorporated.Org et al
Plaintiff Kruska sued Perverted Justice Foundation Incorporated (www.corporatesexoffenders.com and wikisposure project), Xavier Von Erck a/k/a Phillip John Eide, Christopher Brocious (absolutezerounited.blogspot.com, absolutezerounited.com and absolutezerounited.org), Barbara W. Ochoa a/k/a Petra Luna, Filmax Inc. (www.jankruska.com and www.jankruska.net), April Butler, David M. Butler, Godaddy.com, Bob Parsons, and MySpace.com. Plaintiff seeks to enjoin Defendants from posting on their website claims that Plaintiff is a predator, pedophile, child molester and pro-pedophile. Plaintiff also charges defendants with intentional infliction of emotional distress, defamation, cyberstalking and violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act."
Absolute Zero United is among the organizations implicated in a FEDERAL LAWSUIT for CYBERTERRORISM! A lawsuit they will LOSE! WOW! Its like the kid with frosting on his face, afer ask him, "Did you get into the cake?" he says with his mouthful of cake, "MMM-NO"
This is just too funny for words!
Funny. Stitches 77 claims it was WASP Ohio whoposted some crap about me on their trollspot earlier in the year. WASP Ohio claimes it was Stitches 77. I say they're ALL guilty. That means YOU, Ozzie-boy
Saturday, April 26, 2008
Troll Speak
You know, we need a translator when dealing with the trolls, so I have provided you a handy translators guide in the event you come across members of absolute zero united or even a member of perverted-justice:
"Antis:" How AZU identifies themselves. "Anti" is short for "antisocial," which is fitting when you consider their approach to anyone who doesn't agree with them, even a district attorney.
On Jan. 12, 2008, Stitches 77 says, "I could care less what an Iowa attorney says or ANY attorney for that matter." (http://www.robheri.com/2008/01/every-decent-human-being-is-this-world.html)-- The "Iowa attorneys" she was referring to was the Iowa County Attorneys Association, the group of PROSECUTING attorneys in that state. Disregard for legal authority is a hallmark of APD.
"Pedo Enablers:" Anyone who disagrees with their view of "kill all sex offenders." If you are not condemning them to death, you are enabling them. If you call for reform, you are enabling. If you are not aggressive enough in condemning them you are enabling them. Somehow, they came to the belief that calling for reforms to make sex offenders legislation sensible and promoting stuff like prevention and education, you are somehow excusing sex crimes. Remember, I've already noted in previous threads, Patty Wetterling and The Pope were among the list of "pedo enablers."
Ironically, the real definition of "enabling" is encouraging an action through support or creating an environment conducive to behavior. Ironically, the AZU harass/annoy/stress gameplan creates such an environment.
"Spin:" Essentially any interpretation of a study or stat that disagrees with their interpretations of it. Ironically, they are adept at having interesting intepretations of what people say. After all, they turned the Pope's message of healing for victims of the church's sex scandal into a blame game rant. Which brings me to:
"Blame Gamers:" Anyone who suggests anything for the healing process except cold revenge; also means any former offender who speaks out against oppressive sex offender laws.
"Victim Bashing:" Attacking, criticizing, or questioning any of their words or actions, even if you are doing so in self-defense from their actions. Somehow AZU thinks being a victim or a victim advocate gives them license to hurt others. And their favorite:
"Denial:" Anyone non-submissive to their whims. If you speak up against sex offender laws, you are in "denial." Guess they forgot SO laws aren't SUPPOSED to be punishment. Dumbasses.
Eventually I may add more to this as the need arises.
"Antis:" How AZU identifies themselves. "Anti" is short for "antisocial," which is fitting when you consider their approach to anyone who doesn't agree with them, even a district attorney.
On Jan. 12, 2008, Stitches 77 says, "I could care less what an Iowa attorney says or ANY attorney for that matter." (http://www.robheri.com/2008/01/every-decent-human-being-is-this-world.html)-- The "Iowa attorneys" she was referring to was the Iowa County Attorneys Association, the group of PROSECUTING attorneys in that state. Disregard for legal authority is a hallmark of APD.
"Pedo Enablers:" Anyone who disagrees with their view of "kill all sex offenders." If you are not condemning them to death, you are enabling them. If you call for reform, you are enabling. If you are not aggressive enough in condemning them you are enabling them. Somehow, they came to the belief that calling for reforms to make sex offenders legislation sensible and promoting stuff like prevention and education, you are somehow excusing sex crimes. Remember, I've already noted in previous threads, Patty Wetterling and The Pope were among the list of "pedo enablers."
Ironically, the real definition of "enabling" is encouraging an action through support or creating an environment conducive to behavior. Ironically, the AZU harass/annoy/stress gameplan creates such an environment.
"Spin:" Essentially any interpretation of a study or stat that disagrees with their interpretations of it. Ironically, they are adept at having interesting intepretations of what people say. After all, they turned the Pope's message of healing for victims of the church's sex scandal into a blame game rant. Which brings me to:
"Blame Gamers:" Anyone who suggests anything for the healing process except cold revenge; also means any former offender who speaks out against oppressive sex offender laws.
"Victim Bashing:" Attacking, criticizing, or questioning any of their words or actions, even if you are doing so in self-defense from their actions. Somehow AZU thinks being a victim or a victim advocate gives them license to hurt others. And their favorite:
"Denial:" Anyone non-submissive to their whims. If you speak up against sex offender laws, you are in "denial." Guess they forgot SO laws aren't SUPPOSED to be punishment. Dumbasses.
Eventually I may add more to this as the need arises.
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Messy Medic - Messy in more ways than one
Since you have a flair for posting crap up about others this one's for you buddy:
http://www.youtube.com/user/messymedic
Didn't your momma teach you not to leave your toys lying around the house? Did your mom have an affinity for KFC by chance? You just got have an uncanny resemblance to the Colonel.
Oh, and don't ever tell me absolute zero and perverted justice aren't connected. Nobody's buying that crap! Besides, you werekind enough to post it up on your Spew-Tube account.
Don't hate the playa hate the game!
http://www.youtube.com/user/messymedic
Didn't your momma teach you not to leave your toys lying around the house? Did your mom have an affinity for KFC by chance? You just got have an uncanny resemblance to the Colonel.
Oh, and don't ever tell me absolute zero and perverted justice aren't connected. Nobody's buying that crap! Besides, you werekind enough to post it up on your Spew-Tube account.
Don't hate the playa hate the game!
RIP www.absolutezerounited.org. Wanna buy it?
http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?domain=absolutezerounited.org&partnerid=14460&language=e
FOR SALE BY OWNER: One slightly used website available for immediate purchase and release. A great rehab property, needs fresh paint. This site is HOT!
It seems http://www.absolutezerounited.org/ has retired. They must've decided to stop wasting their efforts helping victims of abuse overcome from and heal from the crimes committed against them, and instead focus on committing crimes against others they feel are "pedoheads" and "pedo enablers." Of interesting note, they only had 70 visitors on average. Guess not everyone's into committing crimes against others.
Considering the growth of lawsuits against them, they better hope it fetches a good price LOL!
FOR SALE BY OWNER: One slightly used website available for immediate purchase and release. A great rehab property, needs fresh paint. This site is HOT!
It seems http://www.absolutezerounited.org/ has retired. They must've decided to stop wasting their efforts helping victims of abuse overcome from and heal from the crimes committed against them, and instead focus on committing crimes against others they feel are "pedoheads" and "pedo enablers." Of interesting note, they only had 70 visitors on average. Guess not everyone's into committing crimes against others.
Considering the growth of lawsuits against them, they better hope it fetches a good price LOL!
Tuesday, April 22, 2008
The Show Must Go On
For four long months, I have endured the worst Absolute Zero United has to offer, including the mock blogspots, the videos mocking me, the Wikisposure page calling me a pedophile. False accusations. Slander. Cyberstalking (don't tell me googling your screen name for the sole purpose of telling everyone you're a "pedohead" is not cyberstalking, especially when you've done it numerous times). Phone calls at 3 am. My evidence file has grown in Megs over those four months.
The idea to create this site came a week ago, after so many people were harassed by members of Absolute Zero United, some of their targets figured the only way to show them how foolish they are is to create a counter site. Thus, Absolute Zero Unites was born.
For a week or so now, I have posted under a derivative name of the poster to took it upon herself to attack me for my involvement in a civil rights rally. So "Stitches" and I took it upon ourselves to fight fire with fire, so to speak. Why not repost their words (unlike AZ, however, its fully resourced AND not taken out of context). Why not expose their illicit tactics, like they "expose" allegedly dangerous individuals (without the posting of names, phone numbers, etc). Why not call them out on THEIR lies, misconceptions, myths, and fallacies? This site may have been thought up with the intention of being a "spoof" of AZU, but Unites is still a site based on the facts.
What do I hope to achieve? Well, I hope AZU sees how foolish they are in doing what they do. If a person is a "clear and present danger" as they claim, then you should contact LE; instead they take the low road, doling out their own brand of justice. They justify what they do by dehumanizing their targets, which excuses their attacks in their own minds; they pore through all your posts in hopes to find something that can be misinterpreted so they can justify their attacks; they choose to be bitter and hurt people because they were hurt themselves or have a warped sense of justice, or possibly just like hurting people. And sex criminals are easy targets.
Whatever the reason, there is no justification for engaging in such activities as posting personal addresses, claiming you're a "pedohead/freak," calling you at 3 am, or creating defamatory videos about you because hey don't like you. That is stupid, childish, and most of all, illicit.
So it came to pass I ran into Stitches 77, Daydreamer of Oz, and Messy Medic (who is replacing WASP Ohio as my least favorite), on a "neutral" site called www.sexoffenderalliance.com. Anyways, they weren't too fond of this counter site and demand I take it down. Well I have a list of demands, so at the moment, I called a ceasefire to at least try to see what the hell their problem is. So they basically want me to not be active in my cause. Too bad, I can't do that. And their other demands are even less reasonable. Essentially they want me to be quiet and do and say what they want and then MAYBE they will do what I ask. I DON'T THINK SO!
Until I see changes in how the absolute zeroes operate, and that includes wholesale reform of their sites (yes that includes all affiliates and contributors), then there is a compelling interest in keeping this site open. I consider Absolute Zero United a "clear and present danger" to society and to former offenders whose only real crime of interest to AZ is being bold enough to speak out against these laws.
There is a single that describes AZU's tactics of slander, defamation, cyberstalking, cyberharassment, and bullying tactics. It's called "CRIMINAL." And Unites (derivative names and all) will exist as long as the need to expose AZU as the criminal organization they are.
PS: Don't dish out what you are unwilling to take, AZ!
The idea to create this site came a week ago, after so many people were harassed by members of Absolute Zero United, some of their targets figured the only way to show them how foolish they are is to create a counter site. Thus, Absolute Zero Unites was born.
For a week or so now, I have posted under a derivative name of the poster to took it upon herself to attack me for my involvement in a civil rights rally. So "Stitches" and I took it upon ourselves to fight fire with fire, so to speak. Why not repost their words (unlike AZ, however, its fully resourced AND not taken out of context). Why not expose their illicit tactics, like they "expose" allegedly dangerous individuals (without the posting of names, phone numbers, etc). Why not call them out on THEIR lies, misconceptions, myths, and fallacies? This site may have been thought up with the intention of being a "spoof" of AZU, but Unites is still a site based on the facts.
What do I hope to achieve? Well, I hope AZU sees how foolish they are in doing what they do. If a person is a "clear and present danger" as they claim, then you should contact LE; instead they take the low road, doling out their own brand of justice. They justify what they do by dehumanizing their targets, which excuses their attacks in their own minds; they pore through all your posts in hopes to find something that can be misinterpreted so they can justify their attacks; they choose to be bitter and hurt people because they were hurt themselves or have a warped sense of justice, or possibly just like hurting people. And sex criminals are easy targets.
Whatever the reason, there is no justification for engaging in such activities as posting personal addresses, claiming you're a "pedohead/freak," calling you at 3 am, or creating defamatory videos about you because hey don't like you. That is stupid, childish, and most of all, illicit.
So it came to pass I ran into Stitches 77, Daydreamer of Oz, and Messy Medic (who is replacing WASP Ohio as my least favorite), on a "neutral" site called www.sexoffenderalliance.com. Anyways, they weren't too fond of this counter site and demand I take it down. Well I have a list of demands, so at the moment, I called a ceasefire to at least try to see what the hell their problem is. So they basically want me to not be active in my cause. Too bad, I can't do that. And their other demands are even less reasonable. Essentially they want me to be quiet and do and say what they want and then MAYBE they will do what I ask. I DON'T THINK SO!
Until I see changes in how the absolute zeroes operate, and that includes wholesale reform of their sites (yes that includes all affiliates and contributors), then there is a compelling interest in keeping this site open. I consider Absolute Zero United a "clear and present danger" to society and to former offenders whose only real crime of interest to AZ is being bold enough to speak out against these laws.
There is a single that describes AZU's tactics of slander, defamation, cyberstalking, cyberharassment, and bullying tactics. It's called "CRIMINAL." And Unites (derivative names and all) will exist as long as the need to expose AZU as the criminal organization they are.
PS: Don't dish out what you are unwilling to take, AZ!
Friday, April 18, 2008
Oh My God! AZU calls Pope a Pedo Enabler!
http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/search/label/Catholic%20ChurchSo Pope Benedict XVI is added to the growing list of people considered "pedophile enablers." As mother would say, "Holy Mackrel!" Can you say BLASPHEMY? Read their "spin" on the papal address regarding the sex abuse scandal: (PS thanks to Daydreamer of Oz for this gem, what a veitible mine of stupidity)
Ozzie: What does this remind you of?
Pope: What does it mean to speak of child protection when pornography and violence can be viewed in so many homes through media widely available today?
Ozzie: Read: Its society's fault when a pedophile molests a kid because after all pornography and violence can be seen in the media.
Warped Ohio's take: The Pope has made a keen observation, that American obsession with all things sexual creates an environment conducive to illicit sexual behavior. Glorifying illicit sexual behavior ("Stiffler's mom, yeah") is not an excuse, but it is an observation that we saturate ourselves with this smut with, while simultaneously neglecting to educate our kids about what is acceptable sexual behavior.
Pope: Those who "have experienced shame over what has occurred" deserve guidance and support.
Ozzie: Read: Its the offenders we need to focus on and stop worrying about those pesky victims.
Oh Yes, Ozzie, lets focus on former offenders, lets forget about helping crime victims recover from harm so they don't spend their loves in bitterness and blind hatred, like you. NOT! You need to spend less time Daydreaming and spend more time in reality. Lets see, the Pope spends time talking to SNAP, looking to find a way to find a way to make reparations for what the American church system had done, and wants to offer them guidance and support to help abuse victims deal with the hurt. Ozzie apparently doesn't seem to understand that many times, the VICTIMS feel shame over what has happened. For a guy in a group claiming to be a voice for the children, Ozzie has little grasp on the concept of the shame people feel when abused.
AZU stated in a recent post up on their site, "spin is evil... the antis won't stand for it." Spin is evil? You just spun quite a web yourself.
Thursday, April 17, 2008
I'm not a vigilante, I'm a blogger..."
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episodes/2007/12/20/segments/90693/1
Stitches 77: "Why are you calling me a vigilante? I'm a blogger just like you." (She then proceeds to defame and harass poster)
vig·i·lan·te - n
1. law-enforcing citizen: somebody who punishes lawbreakers personally rather than relying on the legal authorities
If AZU targets were indeed breaking the law, they have a duty to notify the authorities, which they don't. Instead, they dole out their own brand of justice that involves:
1. Drudging up as much info on said person as possible
2. Posting said personal info at AZU or Wikisposure, with labels like "pedophile" and "pedophile enabler"
3. Video montages and pasting pictures of target in various idiocies like klan suits and horse's asses
ha·rass - vt
1. keep bothering or attacking somebody: to persistently annoy, attack, or bother somebody
2. exhaust enemy with repeated attacks: to exhaust an enemy by attacking repeatedly
stalk
3. vt-- trouble somebody steadily and malevolently: to assail somebody in a steady and sinister way
4. vt law-- harass somebody persistently: to harass somebody criminally by persistent, inappropriate, and unwanted attention, e.g. by constantly following, telephoning, e-mailing, or writing to him or her
I think googling a name or screen name for the sole purpose to telling a forum in New York City some poster from a thousand miles away is a sex offender. Seriously who in NYC gives a flying flitter about that? But those actions are persistent. Lets see, following, check, persistence, check, malevolent, check, constant, check, inappropriate and unwanted, check and check, repeated attacks, check and check.
She then admits she was there to bother him:
"Do you need to be speaking to me for me to respond to your statements ***?
That's a new one on me. Nevertheless I WAS addressing YOU."
Before I finish, though, an ironic statement by Stitches of the seventy and seven:
"Religion isn't the issue, political affiliation isn't the issue, race certainly isn't the issue. The issue is about good and evil. You might can cure a mentally disturbed individual, but you can't cure evil. There is no cure for dumbass either."
Thankfully there is a cure for both evil,and dumbass, or we'd have to give up on absolute zero united.
(PS: for examples of persistence, all you have to do is read anywhere Stitches et al. posts, and see who she's bitching at)
Stitches 77: "Why are you calling me a vigilante? I'm a blogger just like you." (She then proceeds to defame and harass poster)
vig·i·lan·te - n
1. law-enforcing citizen: somebody who punishes lawbreakers personally rather than relying on the legal authorities
If AZU targets were indeed breaking the law, they have a duty to notify the authorities, which they don't. Instead, they dole out their own brand of justice that involves:
1. Drudging up as much info on said person as possible
2. Posting said personal info at AZU or Wikisposure, with labels like "pedophile" and "pedophile enabler"
3. Video montages and pasting pictures of target in various idiocies like klan suits and horse's asses
"I'm not stalking or harassing. I'm uncovering your lies."
ha·rass - vt
1. keep bothering or attacking somebody: to persistently annoy, attack, or bother somebody
2. exhaust enemy with repeated attacks: to exhaust an enemy by attacking repeatedly
stalk
3. vt-- trouble somebody steadily and malevolently: to assail somebody in a steady and sinister way
4. vt law-- harass somebody persistently: to harass somebody criminally by persistent, inappropriate, and unwanted attention, e.g. by constantly following, telephoning, e-mailing, or writing to him or her
I think googling a name or screen name for the sole purpose to telling a forum in New York City some poster from a thousand miles away is a sex offender. Seriously who in NYC gives a flying flitter about that? But those actions are persistent. Lets see, following, check, persistence, check, malevolent, check, constant, check, inappropriate and unwanted, check and check, repeated attacks, check and check.
She then admits she was there to bother him:
"Do you need to be speaking to me for me to respond to your statements ***?
That's a new one on me. Nevertheless I WAS addressing YOU."
Before I finish, though, an ironic statement by Stitches of the seventy and seven:
"Religion isn't the issue, political affiliation isn't the issue, race certainly isn't the issue. The issue is about good and evil. You might can cure a mentally disturbed individual, but you can't cure evil. There is no cure for dumbass either."
Thankfully there is a cure for both evil,and dumbass, or we'd have to give up on absolute zero united.
(PS: for examples of persistence, all you have to do is read anywhere Stitches et al. posts, and see who she's bitching at)
Wednesday, April 16, 2008
The Pot and the Kettle
There is an old adage that describes the absolute zero mob to a "T," which goes something like this: "When you point a finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you." I love how they point a finger at someone for "harassing" someone or "spinning" statistics, when they do it themselves. As WASP Ohio tells those she harasses who fights back, "Pot. Kettle. Black."
Lets see: AZ harasses a lady, puts her face on a horse's ass, a klan suit, an afro (in the post AFTER the klan suit), a Japanese Kamikaze plane flyer, and a video with a no-talect hack (who sings like cat-torture) in a blonde wig. So a friend of hers, in her defense, suggested pasting Stitches's face on a horse's ass just to see how she liked it, eliciting the following response:
"**** also believes it would be comical to make a parody of me by putting my face on a horse's ass." (the poster apparently later determined to do so would violate the rights of the horse)
(see: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2342563046529245882&postID=5538762935570923443&isPopup=true)
Stitches certainly left a few gems lying around (and we all know "lying" is a Stitches77 mainstay)
"It's always amazed me when someone like **** claims child advocates are 'vigilantes' Apparently she doesn't know the meaning of the word. It's also amazing that she would blatantly ignore the vigilante acts of ****** simply because she doesn't like the people she believes *** committed them against."
Translation, Stitches77 and associates posted up personal info on a target, target drudged up info on her own, and decided to show her how its done. The greatest insult to an individual who thinks they're the master of a game is to one-up her. By the way, Stitches77, apparently you don't know the meaning of vigilante, either.
Next Gem:
"In other words, she's defending the very acts she claims to condemn in others. She takes the word 'hypocrite' to a whole new level. She should be added to the dictionary as an example of the word. Urban dictionary would be a good place to start."
Pot. Kettle. Black. This is a statement as easily applicable to the very person who stated it. Absolute Zero United will post up lies, mockery videos and pictures, and personal info on targets. Then they piss and moan when it happens to them. Look out folks, an absolute zero united site will soon be created in an attempt to discredit absolute zero unites as a "pedo den," complete with mockeries of the names we created to mock them. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Lets see: AZ harasses a lady, puts her face on a horse's ass, a klan suit, an afro (in the post AFTER the klan suit), a Japanese Kamikaze plane flyer, and a video with a no-talect hack (who sings like cat-torture) in a blonde wig. So a friend of hers, in her defense, suggested pasting Stitches's face on a horse's ass just to see how she liked it, eliciting the following response:
"**** also believes it would be comical to make a parody of me by putting my face on a horse's ass." (the poster apparently later determined to do so would violate the rights of the horse)
(see: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2342563046529245882&postID=5538762935570923443&isPopup=true)
Stitches certainly left a few gems lying around (and we all know "lying" is a Stitches77 mainstay)
"It's always amazed me when someone like **** claims child advocates are 'vigilantes' Apparently she doesn't know the meaning of the word. It's also amazing that she would blatantly ignore the vigilante acts of ****** simply because she doesn't like the people she believes *** committed them against."
Translation, Stitches77 and associates posted up personal info on a target, target drudged up info on her own, and decided to show her how its done. The greatest insult to an individual who thinks they're the master of a game is to one-up her. By the way, Stitches77, apparently you don't know the meaning of vigilante, either.
Next Gem:
"In other words, she's defending the very acts she claims to condemn in others. She takes the word 'hypocrite' to a whole new level. She should be added to the dictionary as an example of the word. Urban dictionary would be a good place to start."
Pot. Kettle. Black. This is a statement as easily applicable to the very person who stated it. Absolute Zero United will post up lies, mockery videos and pictures, and personal info on targets. Then they piss and moan when it happens to them. Look out folks, an absolute zero united site will soon be created in an attempt to discredit absolute zero unites as a "pedo den," complete with mockeries of the names we created to mock them. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Monday, April 14, 2008
What's In a Name?
Well, we know our subject matter and they have given us a good basis. We can't rate them any lower than a zero but we could spice that up a bit by changing our name to
absolute freakin zeros or absolute perverted zeros so it would not be so bland.
absolute freakin zeros or absolute perverted zeros so it would not be so bland.
Sunday, April 13, 2008
Child Advocates?
In a recent study of 21 industrialized nations the United States placed 20th in child well-being. The Netherlands took first place. Looks like some countries still possess parenting skills and don't need the hype, the hysteria, the constant proclamations of how much they love their children or the online vigilante hate groups that use children and live to hate. I don't know anything about the laws in the Netherlands but their actions put our words to shame.
As a child advocate I think prevention is a win/win situation. Members of absolutezerounited fight that idea like the plague. They say such efforts diminish the seriousness of the crime. If there is no crime it can't be diminished but we aren't dealing with rational people. Stop It Now! is a legitimate organization with their focus on prevention and the children do come first. Check it out if you want to see real child advocates at work.
As a child advocate I think prevention is a win/win situation. Members of absolutezerounited fight that idea like the plague. They say such efforts diminish the seriousness of the crime. If there is no crime it can't be diminished but we aren't dealing with rational people. Stop It Now! is a legitimate organization with their focus on prevention and the children do come first. Check it out if you want to see real child advocates at work.
Biting Off More Than They Can Chew?
If you have ever visited Absolute Zero, you are probably aware they love to call everyone who opposes their rationale "pedophile enablers." If you type in the names John Stossel (From ABC News 20/20) and Sarah Tofte (of the Human Rights Watch), you'll find articles denouncing them as so-called "pedophile enablers.
Why?
John Stossel was labeled a pedophile enabler because he aired AZU alum Petra Luna admitting on national television she harassed an individual and stated this person "deserved" to be harassed by her. (PS: Petra Luna was more than happy to make her "fine organization" look rather foolish on national television).
Sarah Tofte was labeled a "pedophile enabler" because of the landmark report "No Easy Answers: Sex Offender Laws In The US," which called for wholesale reforms to the current state of sex offender legislation. (PS: This hasn't stopped them from QUOTING the work, I might add).
There is ONE celebrity they backed off of, however: Patty Wetterling. For those who don't know, Patty Wetterling is the mother of missing child Jacob Wetterling; the first registry laws were named for him. Last year, Wetterling expressed concern over the current state of sex offender legislation (see: http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/377462.html). Typically AZU responds with a typical report denouncing anyone who speaks out against toughening all laws against ex-sex-offenders as "pedophile enablers," but this time the site is silent. This does not stop them from blogging about it:
Stitches 77 wrote:
"Patty Wetterling is a pissed off mother of a sex offender who lobbied for victims rights when she lost a son to a sex offender, but is doing everything she can now to save her offending son. I hardly think you should be using her as an example"
(see: http://web.archive.org/web/20080414210038/http://www.robheri.com/2008/01/every-decent-human-being-is-this-world.html)
Or how about this one?
Stitches77: 1/19/2008 9:22:00 AM
"Patty Wetterling lost a child to a sex offender. But now that her other child IS a sex offender she wants to back off from her previous pro-child activism. She's hardly an unbiased source."
(see: http://166.70.44.77/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=8000744&PageIndex=5)
The hits keep coming:
On February 11, 2008 at 5:17 pm Vigilant Antis Said:
"Which Patty Wetterling story are you interested in? The one where her son was killed by a sex offender or the one where the other son became a sex offender and she changed her mind?"
(See: http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/andrew-%E2%80%9Cbilly%E2%80%9D-berg-repeat-sex-offender-child-predator-released-into-the-community/)
Now, try this: Google "Patty Wetterling sex offender son." Do you see any valid articles there? I didn't think so. AZU essentially pulled this out of the ether. I find this striking that they believe this but left it out of their main site. Why? Is it possible they bit off more than they can chew this time?
PS: If these links are no longer valid, I'll be happy to send you the copy I made of the quotes sometime.
Why?
John Stossel was labeled a pedophile enabler because he aired AZU alum Petra Luna admitting on national television she harassed an individual and stated this person "deserved" to be harassed by her. (PS: Petra Luna was more than happy to make her "fine organization" look rather foolish on national television).
Sarah Tofte was labeled a "pedophile enabler" because of the landmark report "No Easy Answers: Sex Offender Laws In The US," which called for wholesale reforms to the current state of sex offender legislation. (PS: This hasn't stopped them from QUOTING the work, I might add).
There is ONE celebrity they backed off of, however: Patty Wetterling. For those who don't know, Patty Wetterling is the mother of missing child Jacob Wetterling; the first registry laws were named for him. Last year, Wetterling expressed concern over the current state of sex offender legislation (see: http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/377462.html). Typically AZU responds with a typical report denouncing anyone who speaks out against toughening all laws against ex-sex-offenders as "pedophile enablers," but this time the site is silent. This does not stop them from blogging about it:
"Patty Wetterling is a pissed off mother of a sex offender who lobbied for victims rights when she lost a son to a sex offender, but is doing everything she can now to save her offending son. I hardly think you should be using her as an example"
(see: http://web.archive.org/web/20080414210038/http://www.robheri.com/2008/01/every-decent-human-being-is-this-world.html)
Or how about this one?
Stitches77: 1/19/2008 9:22:00 AM
"Patty Wetterling lost a child to a sex offender. But now that her other child IS a sex offender she wants to back off from her previous pro-child activism. She's hardly an unbiased source."
(see: http://166.70.44.77/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=8000744&PageIndex=5)
The hits keep coming:
On February 11, 2008 at 5:17 pm Vigilant Antis Said:
"Which Patty Wetterling story are you interested in? The one where her son was killed by a sex offender or the one where the other son became a sex offender and she changed her mind?"
(See: http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/andrew-%E2%80%9Cbilly%E2%80%9D-berg-repeat-sex-offender-child-predator-released-into-the-community/)
Now, try this: Google "Patty Wetterling sex offender son." Do you see any valid articles there? I didn't think so. AZU essentially pulled this out of the ether. I find this striking that they believe this but left it out of their main site. Why? Is it possible they bit off more than they can chew this time?
PS: If these links are no longer valid, I'll be happy to send you the copy I made of the quotes sometime.
They are all alike
You said
“How is that relevant if a paedophile isn’t having sex with a child and doesn’t have any intention of actually having sex with a child?”
I said:
The intent of one member of a social movement has very little to do with the collective goals of the movement. For instance, one member of Hamas stating that he intends to negotiate peacefully means very little in the context of the stated, written mission of Hamas - to destroy Israel by force.
These are the reasons that the distinction is still meaningful.
Stitches77 Says:
December 28th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
Saturday, April 12, 2008
Overt Dehumanization
9 October 2006
If you didn’t know, overt dehumanization - a favourite tool of virtually all hate campaigns, past and present. AZU has been employing it since their beginnings
Stitches77 Says:
December 28th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
"The only way to truly expose how utterly devious and devoid of basic humanity they really are….. is for you to read how utterly devious and devoid of basic humanity they really are.”
So… what is the purpose of dehumanization?
Psychologically, it is necessary to categorize one’s enemy as sub-human in order to legitimize increased violence or justify the violation of basic human rights. Moral exclusion reduces restraints against harming or exploiting certain groups of people. In severe cases, dehumanization makes the violation of generally accepted norms of behavior regarding one’s fellow man seem reasonable, or even necessary….
Once certain groups are stigmatized as evil, morally inferior, and not fully human, the persecution of those groups becomes more psychologically acceptable. Restraints against aggression and violence begin to disappear. Not surprisingly, dehumanization increases the likelihood of violence and may cause a conflict to escalate out of control. Once a violence break over has occurred, it may seem even more acceptable for people to do things that they would have regarded as morally unthinkable before….
…Indeed, dehumanization often paves the way for human rights violations, war crimes, and genocide. For example, in WWII, the dehumanization of the Jews ultimately led to the destruction of millions of people. Similar atrocities have occurred in Rwanda, Cambodia, and the former Yugoslavia.
http://anu.nfshost.com/2006/what-is-azus-mission
http://www.beyondintractability.org/essay/dehumanization/
Stitches77 Says:
December 28th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
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