Thursday, June 30, 2016

The Associated Press refuses to publish an "alleged" killer's name because she used the abuse excuse, but I'm not the AP.


The Associate Press wouldn't publish the name or the mugshot of Kayleene Grenier because she claims she was sexually assaulted by the person she helped murder. That's a load of horseshit! Thankfully, the other media outlets haven't followed the same policy, so here is the abuse excuse/ 'alleged" murdered Kayleene Greniger.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article86959017.html

Minnesota woman accused of hiding machete used in beheading
JUNE 30, 2016 3:10 PM

The Associated Press
GRAND RAPIDS, MINN. 

A Minnesota woman was charged Thursday with hiding a machete her boyfriend allegedly used to decapitate a man she said raped her.

Prosecutors charged the 22-year-old woman with being an accomplice to second-degree murder after the fact and with third-degree assault, both felonies. Her bail was set at $2 million without conditions, the same as her boyfriend's.

She's accused of tying up and beating David Haiman, breaking his nose, after he arrived at the Grand Rapids apartment she shared with Joseph Thoresen, 35. She untied him, then Thoresen punched him repeatedly, the complaint said.

Prosecutors allege Thoresen later ambushed Haiman along a road near Ball Club and used a machete to decapitate the 20-year-old Hibbing man. Authorities found Haiman's torso and head Sunday. The woman allegedly hid the machete in the couple's apartment.

According to the complaint in Itasca County, the woman had told Thoresen that Haiman had sexually assaulted her.

The Associated Press generally doesn't name people who say they're victims of sexual abuse. Her attorney didn't return a phone message seeking comment.

Thoresen is charged with murder. His attorney, Darla Nubson, declined to comment.

Itasca County sheriff's investigator Mark Weller told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that he "can't confirm or deny" whether the sexual assault occurred.

"We are looking into that," Weller said.

Both Thoresen and his girlfriend remained in jail Thursday. They are due in court Tuesday.

Here is a non-AP article that had no problem publishing Kayleene's name.

http://www.fox21online.com/news/local-news/grand-rapids-woman-charged-as-an-accomplice-to-the-murder-of-david-haiman/40299166

Grand Rapids Woman Charged as an Accomplice to the Murder of David Haiman

Joseph Thoresen's Girlfriend an Accomplice

POSTED: 02:58 PM CDT Jun 30, 2016

GRAND RAPIDS, Minn. -

On Thursday morning, Kayleene Greniger, 22 of Grand Rapids appeared in Itasca County District Court. She is charged with one count of Accomplice after the Fact to Murder in the Second Degree and one count of Assault in the Third Degree. 

The charges stem from allegations that Greniger and Joseph Thoresen assaulted David Haiman, 20 of Hibbing, at their apartment and later Thoresen assaulted Haiman with a baseball bat, knife, and machete and caused Haiman's death on or about June 21st, 2016. The charges also allege that Greniger hid the machete in their apartment.

At the hearing, upon recommendation of the prosecutor, the court set bail in the amount of $200,000 without conditions or $100,000 with conditions. Greniger's next court appearance is set for July 5th, 2016 at 9:00 a.m.

FBI confirms Chuck Rodrick IS under investigation as Rodrick defends himself in court (but fails to actually appear in court)

Maybe the FBI should add impersonating a police officer to the complaint. He was posting under the fake profile "JonathanWilson," and the face of Jonathan Wilson was that of a dead Colorado police officer. Another of Rodrick's aliases is John DeMargo, and he is using a profile pic of French Author John Green.

I'm not happy the judge didn't allow the lawsuits by those actually on the registry to continue, as if to say it is perfectly okay to harass a registered citizen. But at least THIS lawsuit is ongoing. Plus, the FBI has confirmed it is investigating Chuck Rodrick.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2016/06/29/phoenix-website-owners-attorney-denies-harassment-claims-federal-court-trial/86313212/

Phoenix website owner's attorney denies harassment claims in federal court trial
 Robert Anglen, The Republic | azcentral.com 12:56 p.m. MST June 29, 2016

An attorney for a businessman accused of using multiple websites for internet harassment is arguing in court that his client did nothing wrong and that his online activity was protected by federal law.

Charles "Chuck" Rodrick was not in U.S. District Court in Phoenix when lawyers made opening statements to a jury.

The civil case started three years ago with allegations Rodrick used websites to demand money and target people for harassment. The sites' stated purpose was to list people identified as sex offenders, but plaintiffs claimed Rodrick had used the sites to target them for harassment when they were not required to be registered as sex offenders.

Defense attorney Michael Harnden said evidence would show Rodrick, on three sites he operated focusing on sex-offender information, never falsely identified any of the plaintiffs as registered sex offenders or falsely claimed they were required to register as a sex offender.

He said Rodrick had immunity from lawsuits because the information posted on the sex-offender websites came from third parties and he was just republishing "freely available information" similar to any news site.

"(Plaintiffs) do not have a single piece of proof to back up any of their claims," Harnden told the jury Tuesday, adding: "My client's character, reputation and his businesses are not on trial here."

Lawyers for the plaintiffs tried to make Rodrick's business and reputation the centerpiece of their case, saying he used the websites to post untrue allegations, including infidelity, fraud, implied sex offenses and criminal activity.

California lawyer Janice Bellucci said this was a case about a man who uses the internet to make "accusations he can't back up" and who uses his websites to publish false and malicious information about his victims.

Rodrick is being sued by three people who say they were profiled on his websites even though they were not convicted of sex crimes. In their lawsuit, they accused him of extortion and of using his websites to put victims in a false light, invade privacy and to intentionally inflict emotional damage.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has confirmed that Rodrick, 55, is under investigation for his Web-based activities.

Rodrick also owes about $2 million in unpaid court judgments to three people he unsuccessfully attempted to sue in 2014, including two of the plaintiffs in the federal case.

Lawsuit evolved over 3 years

The federal court case has changed dramatically since it was filed in 2013, with the focus going from claims by sex offenders who argued they were unlawfully targeted by Rodrick to questions about whether Rodrick used his websites to launch personal attacks and disseminate false information.

The lawsuit originally was filed on behalf of 10 people who said Rodrick used government records to create his own database and demand money to remove the records under the threat of increased exposure.

Some claimed their names appeared on Rodrick's websites long after their names had been removed from official sex-offender registries. Others said their names remained on Rodrick's websites after they paid him a removal fee.

A judge last year dismissed claims filed by several plaintiffs who were sex offenders, saying Rodrick was protected from liability under federal law because he was republishing information from official records and not creating original content.

U.S. District Court Judge Susan Bolton said those plaintiffs could not prove Rodrick was "responsible for the development or creation of information" on his websites despite his demands for money for records removal.

Bolton, however, refused to dismiss claims filed by plaintiffs who "have never registered as sex offenders or been convicted of a sex-related offense."

The three plaintiffs include a retired U.S. Marine Corps major who never has been arrested or charged with a crime; the mother of a sex offender in Washington state who launched his own website to challenge Rodrick in 2013; and a man who was arrested on a sex-related charge years ago but who says he was not classified as a sex offender or required to register as one.

"The court could reasonably conclude that defendant created a portion of his websites’ content by adding the personal information of those plaintiffs not listed on preexisting sex offender registries and misidentifying them as individuals who have been convicted of a sex-related offense," Bolton wrote last year.

Plaintiffs claim misstatements, damage

Bellucci, who works for the non-profit California Reform Sex Offender Laws, said each of the plaintiffs has suffered damage as a result of Rodrick's websites.

David Ellis, who served 26 years in the U.S. Marines and is now president of a Phoenix aerospace company, testified that after he he began dating Rodrick's  ex-wife, his name appeared on sex-offender websites owned by Rodrick.

He said Rodrick launched a campaign beginning in 2013 that is still ongoing. Ellis said he was identified on several sex-offender sites and that Rodrick accused him of infidelity, entertaining young boys at his apartment and falsely claiming his brother was a murderer and a heroin addict.

Ellis said Rodrick last year sent complaints to the Department of Defense calling for an investigation of Ellis' company, American Aerospace Technical Castings in Phoenix, claiming that Ellis manufactured faulty airline parts for commercial and military airplanes and falsified test results.

Ellis said there were several federal and private investigations of his firm, including the Department of Defense and the Federal Aviation Administration and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which cleared him of the charges.

Harnden said Rodrick was simply a conduit for a whistleblower at Ellis' company and as such was just forwarding a complaint to the government. Ellis countered that Rodrick paid the so-called whistleblower, a former employee, and used the information to accuse Ellis of fraud.

Harnden contended that Ellis thrust himself into Rodrick's operation by giving information about Rodrick to sex offenders. Ellis said he first got involved after Rodrick's ex-wife came to him for help in 2012. He said he investigated Rodrick's websites and discovered that Rodrick was demanding money to have records removed from the site.

He said sex offenders had posted the name and address of Rodrick's ex-wife and children online and he helped to get that information removed by offering them information on Rodrick's current whereabouts.

Superior Court case covered similar ground

The issues in the federal trial are similar to those raised in Maricopa County Superior Court in a case in which Rodrick sued several people, including Ellis, who publicly decried his websites.

A judge in the case, heard in 2014, declared Rodrick the defendant in his own defamation lawsuits and allowed counterclaims against him to go forward, reversing the roles of the defendants and making them plaintiffs. The move effectively put Rodrick in the position of defending himself in his own case.

A jury found Rodrick defamed three victims, invaded their privacy, put them in a false light and abused the court system by filing lawsuits against them as a form of retaliation.

'Republic' investigation spotlighted Rodrick

Rodrick's original websites, Offendex.com and SORArchives.com, originally claimed to profile the records of 750,000 sex offenders in the United States.

An investigation by The Arizona Republic in 2013 found Rodrick's sites mined data compiled by law-enforcement agencies across the country and used it to collect money from sex offenders. Operators did not always take down profiles after payments were made, and they launched online harassment campaigns against those who balked at financial demands or filed complaints.

The investigation found websites listed individuals as sex offenders who no longer were required to register or whose names had been removed from sex-offender databases. The sites included names and personal information of people who had never been arrested or convicted of a sex crime.

The internet-savvy operators ensured anyone in their databases could be found easily on a Google search. They prominently profiled specific individuals, published their home and email addresses and posted photographs of their relatives.

In court filings and elsewhere, Rodrick repeatedly denied ownership of the websites.

Rodrick's former partner, Brent Oesterblad, testified in 2014 that he helped disguise Rodrick's ownership interest by opening bank accounts and filing corporation papers for him. He said Rodrick further hid his role by registering website domain names in foreign countries and running them through proxy servers. His claims were backed by court and financial records.

Rodrick and Oesterblad both were convicted on unrelated fraud-related charges in the early 1990s.

FBI investigation underway

The FBI has been investigating Rodrick for more than a year over his Web activities, and his former attorney has spoken out against him.

Federal agents have provided letters confirming the investigation to Ellis and others profiled on Rodrick's websites.

"You have been identified as a victim of the activities conducted by Charles Rodrick," the letter states. "The current investigation has revealed a number of victims and is ongoing."

In addition to the sex-offender websites, Harnden said Rodrick operates websites such as Courtkey.com and Barcomplaint.com, which include references to several people involved in his cases.

Under the headings, "sex offenders ... bad lawyers ... corruption," and "lies ... conspiracy ... news media fraud ... theft,"  Rodrick's Courtkey.com site promises to expose the truth.

Rodrick's former lawyer in the federal case also has accused Rodrick of trying to extort free legal services and of lying to the court.

Daniel Warner, who has been called as a witness in the federal case and testified Wednesday, said Rodrick filed a complaint with the State Bar of Arizona alleging misconduct after Warner withdrew from the case.

Rodrick accused Warner of violating several professional rules, including fraudulent billing, conflict of interest and revealing privileged attorney-client information through an article on the firm's blog last year with the headline, "Two men, one extortion racket website?"

Warner, in a denial letter to the State Bar, said the blog was a mistake by a contract employee and went on to detail emails and statements about Rodrick's false claims. Although most attorney-client communication is protected under law, the privilege was waived so Warner could respond to the allegations.

Warner said Rodrick made false statements about his ownership of the website and his past and continued to violate court orders.

The bar dismissed Rodrick's complaint against Warner in January.

Wednesday, June 29, 2016

Vigilante Scumbag Roundup 6/29/16: GoFundMe scams and more vigis getting away with murder

I've been busy doing other things so I haven't had much time to devote to this blog lately, so here's a roundup of vigilante scumbags:



Zach Sweers running GoFundMe scam:

MLive.com was more than willing to help promote Zach Sweers's crappy GoFundMe campaign to raise money for lawyers after one of his victims sued him. "'Despite my strong defenses, I'm greatly disadvantaged,' Sweers wrote on a GoFundMe page. 'I've been representing myself in the few weeks this lawsuit has been going on so far and I have realized that Michigan law in civil court procedure is way over my head.'... His GoFundMe page shows nearly $6,700 in donations, with a $25,000 goal." Interestingly, he has doubled his campaign request once he earned $25,000. Gee, you'd think $25k would be enough for a "frivolous lawsuit." It seems to me Zach discovered the path to easy money, and there are plenty of suckers willing to throw money at this loser. He should be in jail!

UK: No Charges for teens who beat and killed a man they mistook for a "paedophile."

Predator Panic is just as bad 'across the pond, and so are the vigilante scumbags. In the UK Sun piece, "THEY GOT AWAY WITH MURDER Fury of woman whose dad was beaten to death by paedophile vigilante gang after teens walk free," the following was reported:

"Lorry driver Kelly was lured to his death by a then 15-year-old girl, who said she was an adult, after meeting on an internet chat room.

Witnesses saw all four teens repeatedly punching and kicking Darren before 20-year-old Chris Carol, who was convicted of murdering Kelly last year, stabbed the dad six times.

The remaining three teens, two boys aged 17 and the girl, now 16, were cleared of murder and manslaughter after a six-week trial at Chelmsford crown court. Carol was jailed for a minimum of 21 years....

A fourth teenager, aged 13, who was seen attacking the 42-year-old, never faced charges...

“It is an immense sense of injustice only having one in five behind bars. The girl who organised it has got away scot-free, which leaves me with a very bitter taste in the mouth," said Zoe Kelly, the daughter of the man beaten to death.

And, since they aren't guilty by court rule, there are no picture of these thugs. You'd think since they didn't kill a real sex offender, they would have gotten in trouble!

Sunday, May 22, 2016

The Problems Facing the New Breed of Vigilante "Pedophile" Hunters

The problem is that most vigilantes are criminals who engage in illegal activity on a regular basis.

http://www.vice.com/read/paedophile-vigilante-dangers-murder-uk

The Problems Facing the New Breed of Vigilante Pedophile Hunters
By Matt Broomfield
May 19, 2016

Bringing pedophiles to justice might seem like a pretty black-and-white moral issue. But when you have neo-Nazis and drug barons on one side and innocent or psychologically vulnerable men on the other, the waters become a little murkier.

Yesterday, a vigilante pedophile hunter was jailed for life for stabbing an innocent man to death. In a seemingly typical ploy, 42-year-old Darren Kelly was lured to a property in Pitsea, Essex by a 15-year-old girl. But two things went wrong. Firstly, as a spokesperson for Essex Police makes clear: "Mr. Kelly thought he had been speaking to a woman [the 15-year-old girl's mother]. There was no evidence he was interested in underage girls."

Secondly, rather than a dressing-down on camera, Kelly received a beating at the hands of Chris Carroll and three teenagers, who cannot be named for legal reasons. Carroll, 20, then stabbed him with a hunting knife and fled the scene, but forensic detectives pinned him to the crime. Carroll will serve 21 years for murder, but his co-defendants were released without charge.

Anti-pedophile activism has been associated with illegality and violence in the past, and has been practiced by some of society's more unsavory characters. In the 1970s, for instance, the National Front picketed meetings of the Paedophile Information Exchange, and it was the NF, the British National Party, and the English Defence League that led protests in 2014 against the sexual abuse of 1,400 children in Rotherham—the fact the perpetrators were British-Pakistani Muslim men no doubt being a contributing factor.

In 2003, 60-year-old Scottish crime boss Maggie "Big Mags" Haney was sentenced to 12 years for running a drug-dealing ring which sold four-figure sums of heroin daily out of a base known as "Haney's Hotel." Before that arrest, the grandmother attracted headlines as a militant campaigner against child grooming on her Stirling council estate.

Other vigilante campaigns are less carefully-orchestrated. In 2000, an innocent man, Iain Armstrong, was targeted because he was wearing a similar neck-brace to a convicted sex offender. The same year, pediatrician Yvette Cloete was hounded from her home by impassioned but somewhat confused protesters. Bijan Ebrahimi, 44, was registered as disabled and unable to work when he arrived in Britain as a refugee in 2013. But when he photographed children vandalizing his hanging baskets, Bristol police took him into custody, carting him away in front of a crowd chanting: "Pedo, pedo."

Mr. Ebrahimi was soon released without charge. The night of his release, he was beaten, dragged from his home, and set on fire by his neighbor Lee James. James is serving life for his murder, and two police officers were imprisoned for deliberately ignoring a string of panicked phone-calls from the victim.

A more recent wave of anti-pedophile activists have been taking the fight from the streets to the internet. These vigilantes set up an online honey-trap, posing as underage children and arranging to meet adult men, before bursting out to confront them with a video camera. Many of those involved say they are themselves survivors of abuse.

The trend was popularized by 34-year-old vigilante Stinson Hunter, who started confronting alleged pedophiles in 2012 "to make waves and get parents, the government, and people who can change things talking." He feels the Carroll murder was an inevitable tragedy, as multiple copy-cat vigilantes have sought to emulate his work for less honorable reasons.

"It's getting out of hand," Hunter says over the phone, his voice rising with emotion. "It's heartbreaking. This guy got murdered, and for what? Because a bunch of muppets wanted a fast track to fame and to look cool in front of their mates."

Hunter says he "always talks to [his targets] like they're my best friend." While this might be stretching the point a little—friends don't often hit other friends with cars, which is what happened to Hunter when he went to confront a target in Warwickshire—he has certainly never laid hands on any of his subjects.

Other YouTube warriors are less pacifistic. Last year, a member of a group called "NWI Nonce Busters" was jailed for head-butting a man who thought he was arranging to meet a 14-year-old girl. His target lost his front teeth and 12 months of freedom, after a judge found him guilty of grooming. ("NWI" indicates a link to the "North West Infidels," one of the dominant neo-Nazi groups currently active in England, whose members have been imprisoned for moving cocaine across the north of the country.)

Nor are head-butts the worst of it. Michael Duff killed himself after being confronted by a group known as True Justice, and Gary Cleary committed suicide following an altercation with Leicestershire vigilantes Letzgo Hunting.

In a well-publicized case, Michael Parkes hanged himself while out on bail after being entrapped by Stinson Hunter. At the time, Hunter "accepted no responsibility" for Parkes' death, and he remains remorseless: "Yeah, a guy killed himself after talking to me, but he made his own choices."

But there is more than one way to catch a predator. Groups such as Dark Justice, Online Predator Investigation Team (OPIT), and Public Justice PHL (PJ-PHL, formerly known as Paedophile Hunters London) position themselves as the Co-ops of the crowded pedophile-hunting market, claiming to adopt a more ethical approach to extra-judicial crime-fighting.

"Shouting, 'Give me your fucking phone, you fucking nonce,' doesn't get you anywhere," says Jay, a member of PJ-PHL's two-man team. "The minute you attack these people it becomes a different kind of crime. You turn them into a victim."

Stinson Hunter pours scorn on groups who work with the police, and says he releases his videos before trial because his goal is raising awareness, not custodial sentences. (This contradicts his position in a 2013 Channel 4 documentary, where he wept with joy after securing his first conviction.) But all of these second-generation vigilante organizations withhold their video footage until the relevant court cases are closed, saying they prefer securing convictions to hogging the limelight.

"Everyone, including child abusers, has the right to a fair trial," says Callum, a member of Dark Justice. His team are advised by practicing solicitors and barristers, as well as human rights experts, and he claims to have secured 48 arrests and 22 convictions. (Stinson Hunter has racked up over 50 convictions.)

"Often, we don't release videos at all," says Brendan Collis of OPIT. "We get the evidence, get them prosecuted, and then release their details." His teenage daughter Leah was groomed by a 40-year-old man, who then abused her in a hotel room. Since that scarring attack, he and his daughter (who's now of age) have used old photos of Leah to entrap sexual offenders.

All of these groups rightly point to the failure of courts and police to adequately tackle sexual crime. "They need more funding, and they need more training," says PJ-PHL's Jay. He thinks a targets-driven culture forces police to focus on crimes that are easier to convict. Fewer than ten percent of child sex offenses in the UK result in a conviction.

But though all three organizations vehemently condemn Carroll's attack, no one seems sure how to stop a repeat of the Kelly murder. "That's like asking if the Loch Ness monster is real," shrugs Callum of Dark Justice. "No one knows." Brendan of OPIT doesn't think people will ever stop taking the law into their own hands: "Even the most placid of people will react. [Carroll and his co-defendants] might not have killed anyone, had they not been blinded by anger."

A house that was firebombed and graffitied after it was revealed a convicted child abuser lived inside. Photo courtesy of Online Predator Investigation Team

A spokesperson for the National Crime Agency's Child Exploitation and Online Protection Command argues that amateurish vigilante action could have a number of other "serious consequences," including "the compromise of ongoing investigations into pedophile networks, abusers harming a child if they feel threatened, and individuals being mistaken for offenders."

American statistics also suggest that around 90 percent of child sexual abuse victims know their attacker beforehand, rather than meeting them online. Even acknowledging the failings of the police and setting aside the issue of knife-wielding watchmen, it feels hard to be sure that vigilantes like Stinson Hunter and his successors are doing more good than harm.

Charities such as Circles, which provide sex offenders with small support networks, exemplify a more positive model for reducing rates of child sexual abuse. Speaking in 2013, Circles UK CEO Stephen Hanvey said: "Demonizing such serious offenders, even given the awful things they have done, renders them less safe, and less inclined even to attempt to lead offense-free lives. It has to be more about supportive vigilance than mere vigilantism." (A spokesperson for Circles told VICE they could not comment specifically on the issue of vigilantism.)

Online Predator Investigation Team have provided photos (above) of a firebombed car and a house daubed with graffiti. The property was targeted after the vigilante group revealed the identity of its inhabitant, a man convicted of sexually abusing a child. "There was a child in that house," says Brendan. "Who's to blame? The pedophile? Us? Or both?"

The names of vigilantes have been changed at their request.

Friday, May 13, 2016

Video "vigilante" (Zack Sweers) is the REAL predator

Zach Sweers is the douchenugget on the left. 
The person targeted by that douchebag Curtis Hart should have tried the same tactic. Perverted Justice was once accused of pulling similar bait-an-switch style tactics, as was Sheriff Grady Judd.

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2016/05/video_vigilante_targeting_sexu.html

GRAND RAPIDS, MI – A video vigilante who has targeted alleged sexual predators is "the real predator" for stalking men and soliciting sexual encounters by pretending to be a teenage girl, an attorney said.

The videographer, Zach Sweers, and his company, Anxiety War LLC, are being sued in Kent County Circuit Court by Zachary Snoeyink.

Snoeyink is one of seven men charged with accosting for immoral purposes after Sweers posed as a teen in sexually charged chats and then videotaped his confrontations with the subjects that were posted online.

Snoeyink's lawsuit, filed Tuesday, May 10, alleges libel, slander, invasion of privacy for publicity that places plaintiff in a false light, and invasion of privacy for appropriation of the plaintiff's name and image, attorney Ross Plont wrote.

Plont also said that Sweers recently incorporated his website to limit his personal liability.

"The Defendants have taken it upon themselves to be Judge, Jury, and Executioner in the eyes of public opinion to smear Plaintiff's name in a negative light across the Internet and local news media outlets all for Mr. Sweers' own Internet fame and/or financial gain," Plont wrote.

He said that Sweers, through inaction, has rejected his client's demand that he cease and desist and remove videos from his website and others, including Youtube.

In the criminal case, Snoeyink, 29, earlier waived his right to a probable-cause hearing in Grand Rapids District Court but is now seeking a remand from Kent County Circuit Court to have the hearing.

His attorney says Sweers distorted the evidence against him through editing.

Sweers "intentionally misled law enforcement professionals, including police officers, detectives and prosecuting attorneys, with heavily edited evidence, including written and video evidence, all while possessing exculpatory evidence of (Sweers') accusations against (Snoyeink) for the sole purpose of allowing Mr. Sweers to obtain Internet fame and financial gain."

Kent County Prosecutor William Forsyth, in a letter to Sweers last week, said his office would no longer authorize criminal charges based on Sweers' so-called "Youtube encounters" with suspected predators.

Forsyth said he took the action to protect Sweers and the community because of the danger involved in confronting alleged predators in public. He's also concerned because a companion of Sweers openly carried a firearm during a recent encounter.

It raises the stakes for danger, and provides a criminal defendant ammunition to claim statements were not voluntary.

Sweers, 23, plays a role not unlike that of Chris Hansen, on MSNBC's "To Catch a Predator." But Hansen worked with police and a film crew in a staged location.

"When a law enforcement agency engages in such an operation, they have vetted the location, they have multiple back-up officers to deal with any contingencies that might arise, and they use their training to anticipate what those contingencies might be," Forsyth wrote.

He said it is fortunate that no one – Sweers, the alleged predators, or a bystander – has been injured so far in what can be "highly volatile" encounters.

In Snoeyink's case, Sweers approached him in a Taco Bell parking lot in Grand Rapids.

The lawsuit said Sweers responded to a Craigslist ad posted by Snoeyink seeking adult companionship.

Sweers provided a photo of a woman and tried to arrange a sexual encounter "BEFORE ever claiming that the woman that he was pretending to be was a minor," Plont wrote in the lawsuit.

"Defendant Sweers has a modus operandi of luring lonely men in with pictures of beautiful women who appear to be adults, engaging them in explicit conversation, then – and only then – claiming to be a minor who is just a matter of months from reaching the legal age of consent," Plont said.

"Defendant Sweers is the real predator here because he is the one soliciting the sexual conversation and encounters."

Plont said his client explained that he would never do the things Sweers alleged that he planned to do with a minor. He now faces ridicule in public and has to disguise himself when he goes out.

The 20-minute video featuring Snoeyink has gotten nearly 702,000 hits.

"... Plaintiff is sickened by the public allegations made about him that he would have sexual relations with a child," his attorney wrote.

Sweers says on Facebook: "I have mentioned before that I DO NOT want to become a police officer.

"I'm simply a man who finds the need to bust predators since the supply of predators is way too high and the demand to stop them is too low right now. Therefore, there must be greater demand – greater resistance. This is what the public wants, this is what the public needs and this is what the public deserves."

Monday, April 25, 2016

Looks like Offendex/ Chuck Rodrick is at it again. Has he paid that $3.4 Million he owed yet?


When we last discussed Chuck Rodrick (AKA Sucky Chucky) and his Offendex extortion scam, he has busy trying to hide $3.4 million dollars in money he scammed from folks. He obviously hasn't learned his lesson. He is still filing lawsuits from a UPS store address (34522 N. Scottsdale Rd., #120-467, Scottsdale, AZ 85266). I guess he's too much of a pussy to show his face in public. 

I guess he's hoping to start some new shit with folks so he's finally gotten around to targeting me. But then he goes and quotes Valerie Parkhurst as a credible source. What a joke. So now he is running two MORE scamming sites, BarComplaint.com and SexOffenderNewswire.com, both sites looking like it was created by a kid. 

From what I have heard, he's hiding from the Feds. I don't doubt it. I'm still waiting for the Offendextortion site to update us on Chuck and his run from justice. There is also another

My guess is he is just wanting someone to beat his ass. Luckily for him, I'm busy dealing with another con artist to deal with him so I'll just keep this one on the backburner for now. But i'm not done with him or his cronies threatening me anonymously.



Sunday, April 24, 2016

I always love it when internet trolls talk big online but talk meek in person (Eileen Kennedy Panico)


As y'all may know, I've been part of numerous demonstrations over the years, and at times, we deal with real life wannabe vigilantes. In 2007, our protest brought out BACA, Judy Cornett, and Absolute Zero United; last year, BAA and FDLE formed a wall between us and the Book family; and last week, I was slapped with a frivolous lawsuit by Parents For Megan's Law.

But in response to a Newsday (Suffolk Co. News) piece, a woman going by the FB name "Eileen Kennedy Panico" and a Youtube channel of the same name [apparently of  1869 Ave Louis Kossuth, Ronkonkoma, NY, phone #  (631) 738-1372 according to THIS SITE] made some nasty remarks about me on the web. I'm used to it by now so it never fazes me. However, I figured I'd share it here since I vaguely remember this woman.



Eileen Kennedy Panico

I spoke to you the day of your protest and you are absolutely despicable. You spouted untruths and out and out lies. As a mother I can't stomach people like you and you should count your lucky stars it wasn't my child you violated. You wouldn't have a voice had that happened. When you admitted to being on the registry - it took all of my will power to walk away without physically harming you. You claim to be on disability - yet you stood there for hours spouting your BS. You are a disgusting piece of garbage. 

PFML provides victim services that your group of 5 (3 things that call themselves men and 2 sad excuses for women) had to be cancelled so as to not victimize them more with your disgusting rants. I can guarantee that if you stage another protest - our community will be out in full force to oppose your perverte, sick, twisted and foul nonsense. 

Stay in Ohio, Logue and keep your friend, Tom Madison in Oregon. New York, and in particular, Ronkonkoma, doesn't want you there. And apparently of the 300 sex offenders you contacted that live through out Suffolk County, 299 know better and also want nothing to do with you.

So anyways, this Eileen lady is typical of internet trolls when met in real life. Allow me to tell you how this encounter REALLY went down.

About 9:30 am, not long after my arrival (and before the other six protesters arrived) some lady (now assumed to be Eileen) was taking pictures and held a notepad, presenting herself as if she was a reporter. I thought nothing about it and she asked me some mundane questions about why we are protesting. It was a windy morning, and one of our signs blew into the parking lot, and I asked her to retrieve it for me, and she did. She thanked me for speaking, then left.

So all this big gangster talk on the internet is laughable. It took all she had not to physically harm me? ROFLMAO! What a joke. First, she would have been arrested. Second, there is no way this person could hurt me short of a long distance projectile. She couldn't even call me a "disgusting piece of garbage" to my face, despite the fact I was engaging in a peaceful protest with so few demonstrators, right?

I love the other stupid comment she made when someone else pointed out her online threat:

****
wow a threat...that doesnt help pro megan.. It sounds like the party could be over. Personally, im convinced...that "non profit" be gettin paid$$$
Like · Reply · 1 hr

Eileen Kennedy Panico
*** I made no threat. Don't make false allegations. Are YOU on the registry?

It is hypocritical for her to bash me for "making false allegations" of PFML while you assume this person is a sex offender for disagreeing with her.

I wrote Eileen a little song. Sing it with me:

Come on, Eileen,
online you're obscene,
but in real real life you can't say what you mean!
Online you talk smack
About my wisecracks
But in real life you could not say jack!


I must say, Eileen looks good in stripes :)

Thursday, March 31, 2016

Curtis J. Hart of Kelso WA and his laughable one-man "Punisher Squad" is the latest wannabe vigilante scumbag

Don't Tread On Me hats are for douchebags. 
This man is Curtis J. Hart, a "libertarian politician" from Kelso, WA. In addition to running a small-time online radio show and generally making an ass of himself, and losing elections by landslides in podunk towns, Hart runs his own joke of an online vigilante team called "The Punisher Squad." What a joke. I guess he must be desperate if he couldn't beat a 70 year old man for a podunk commission seat. 

How Hart feels about helping the homeless




Vigilante group hunting potential child predators in Kelso
Maggie Vespa , KGW 11:19 PM. PST March 04, 2016

KELSO, Wash. -- Ask Curtis Hart if he considers himself a vigilante and you’ll get a blunt answer.

“I’ve been called worse,” he said.

Regardless of the title, Hart says he and roughly five of his friends, who call themselves the Punisher Squad, are serving a vital purpose. They’re catching potential child predators before they have the chance to strike, posting videos of their encounters on YouTube, and only calling police once it’s time for an arrest to be made.

Their first experiment, which happened Thursday, was a success in Hart’s mind.

The proof, being that of 36-year-old Adam Olson, of Castle Rock, who is behind bars, being held on $50,000 bond.

“He believed he was there to meet a 13-year-old girl to have sex with,” said Hart. “The whole thing was exactly like an episode of ‘To Catch a Predator.’”

According to the Kelso police report, Hart and a friend posted a message Thursday in the online app ‘Whisper’.' They posed as a 14-year-old girl, looking to “have fun with an older man”.

“Immediately, I got 30 to 40 responses,” he said.

Hart says he zeroed in on Olson. The two traded selfies, and Hart, still posing as the teen, said he was actually 13.

Quickly, reports show, the conversation became sexual.

“It was absolutely disgusting,” said Hart.

Hart said Olson pressed to meet the fake teen, so he rounded up some buddies, at least one of them armed, and headed to Kelso’s Tom O’Shanter Park.

He said Kelso police had no idea, until Hart and his friends decided it was time for officers to make an arrest, which they did moments later.

“We didn't want to leave it up to the police because you can't just sit around on your hands waiting for government to come and fix everything,” said Hart. “To wait for government is to want your city to end up like Flint, Michigan.”

It’s the same rationale used by similar civilian groups around the world.

The trend, in one city, was dubbed “The Hunter Phenomenon”.

Police elsewhere have pleaded for it to stop, saying it’s ruined lives, put civilians at risk and left would-be slam dunk cases riddled with holes.

KGW reached out to Kelso Police for comment on Olson’s arrest. We were told no one was available.

People living in Kelso and Longview, though, did want to talk about the idea, including David Willis. He has two daughters, and he’s all for it.

“The police are overwhelmed,” he said. “As far as a community, you want people to come together.”

Others were not so sold.

“They're not police,” said Bob Johnson. “They don't have experience. They don't know what they're doing, and we have laws that protect people that haven't done anything yet.”

Prosecutors in Cowlitz County have yet to file formal charges against Olson.

He’s being held on probable cause for one count of second-degree attempted rape of a child and one count of communication with a minor for immoral purposes by electronic means.

Thursday, March 24, 2016

And speaking of more butthurt, T-Shaun is still whining and crying over a bad book review

Shaun Webb expects those of us in the anti-registry  movement to support him and his books while bashing us all the while. Over the years, I've tried to offer support to other registrants, even though many are unwilling to help anyone but themselves. Shaun Webb of Michigan is one such person. He expects people to support him by buying his books (none of his books benefit our cause), but has offered nothing in return. 

Earlier in this blog, I mentioned how Shaun Webb reminds me of Clay Keys, a registrant in Florida who got mad over some petty dispute and joined Absolute Zero Unites in harassing registrant activists. Shaun Webb, a Level 2 sex offender, is attacking our cause. His reason for being mad? He called me while I was traveling and he had trouble hearing me. That's it. This is the whole reason he's been whining like a fat ugly punk-ass bitch since last October and bashing registrant activists. 

After trying in vain to bash me and others who gave legitimate critical reviews of his shitty books on Goodreads and after creating no fewer than half a dozen fake names in order to try to inflate the number of good reviews for his books while giving Once fallen bad reviews, he finally gave up Goodreads for the moment and took his little crying spell to his crappy Wordpress blog. (I guess after he send me no fewer than a dozen spam messages that I don't bother publishing, I'd see why he made it a point to spam me wioth his trashy blog no one cares about.) So here is Shaun Webb's latest hissy fit.



Just remember folks, if this guy is willing to use the word "pedophile," then why would anyone in the Anti-Registry Movement support him? But allow me to clear the air on his so-called 'donations first, since Webb seems to have a memory issue. In reality, what he asked me to do for him was accept a $300 Paypal payment on his credit card and send him $250 of it back so he could bypass the limit on cash withdrawals. (I'll be contacting Paypal and when I can get an invoice from that time, I'll post it. Shaun Webb is too easy to debunk because of his selective memory.) He got in some hot water with the credit card companies because they called me looking for him. 

Anyone who has ever donated knows I send a thank you in response, and that I take calls and I don't demand anything in return, though I encourage them to support the cause. Yes, most of us are aware this is a thankless job most of the time, and that few callers go on to become front-line activists. Shaun Webb never helped the cause, so I'd say his own accusations just make him look silly. 

On to Shaun's laughable breakdown of my work over the past year:


I can't help but to laugh at the absurdity. Hey, has anybody SEEN Shaun Webb anywhere? I think he got one mention for his new self-published trash in one local paper. I love the comments section for that article, by the way. Maybe someday, Shaun can be somewhere beyond the Oakland Press. Maybe if he can write a better research paper than I can and... Sorry, folks, I'm laughing too hard to continue. Shaun COULD write one but he'd likely just copy-and-paste what someone else wrote and add a few comments. How you know which comments are his? Look for the grammar errors :)


Again, this rant is hilarious. But just because this is so easily debunked....



I'd say 307 > 26, Shaun. You might want to freshen up on your math. On to another of my favorites:



LOL. What joke. They guy is still here. The apartment below me is opening up so we've been waiting for it to open up. There has been no rush and anyone who wants to call and confirm that can do so. 


This one literally made me laugh my ass off. I could bring up how you backed off the Dr. Phil Show because they wanted to give you a polygraph (although in that case, I wouldn't blame you), but this is the guy who lives in Michigan but has NEVER done ANYTHINg but promote his books. n fact, I DARE Shaun Webb to show us what he has done to the cause/ Go on, I'll be waiting. The Lansing thing was his idea, but then when it was time to put up or shut up, he shut up. Fucking coward!

This one is just too much. In addition to bashing the size of the movement, he pulled a page out of the Valigator playbook. I guess since Valerie Parkhurst & Shaun Webb have become internet BFFs, I'm not surprised he sounds like Val. I remember when Val tried to claim all my neighbors were calling her to ask her how to chase my out of my home. Too funny!

On the other bratty comments, fat jokes don't faze me, I know Shaun Webb hasn't missed too many meals, either. And people already know I'm not afraid to express my disapproval at the lack of participation in the movement, but I'm not the only one who has. Even the mighty Janice Bellucci has done that. There should be 850,000 pissed off people.

Shaun Webb make his own enemies by attacking them over minor slights and he trolls them incessantly over the slight. Just like T-Sand. Just like Valigator. Three peas in a pod. (I should mention he made Valigator an anti-hero in his Behind the Brick book). 

Shaun Webb apparently doesn't understand what slander and defamation of character is, but maybe it is time I give him a lesson on it. 

Give it a rest, Shaun. I had considered removing the warning about you,but you reminded me why I should keep up the bad book reviews and the posts here on AZ-Unites about you. You cannot be trusted. 

Wednesday, March 9, 2016

Are you mentally ill & thinks society hates you? Just use the registry, attack an RSO and be a "hero."

Personally, I think anyone who attacks us just because we are on some government hit list is mentally ill. I'm willig to bet the polesmokers over at NPFP will actively recruit this chump. He'd fit right in with the rest of their mentally ill crew.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/lake/os-man-arrest-sex-offender-hammer-attack-20160308-story.html

Mentally ill man arrested after hunting down sex offender with hammer, deputies say
Mar. 8, 2016

CLERMONT — A convicted sex offender fended off an attack from a man wielding a hammer and "acting really nervous and sweating" who rang his doorbell Monday night, reports show.

Bruce Babchyck, 54, opened the door of his Jardim De Largo Street home at around 9:30 p.m. to a man who allegedly lunged at him at him with the hammer, deputies said.

Babchyck, a retired Navy officer who was found guilty in 2014 of downloading child porn on a government computer, fought back and pushed back the man enough to close the door. He told authorities he then heard several loud bangs on his door and several more in the driveway where his car was parked.

When deputies found the suspect, Ian Saum, 26, he told them he looked up sex offenders in the area and tracked down Babchyck's residence, records show. He told authorities he thought the attack would "vindicate him of his wrong doings," an arrest report said.

Deputies found several large dents in Babchyck's front door, which appeared to have been caused by a hammer, officials said. They also found three deep scratches to the driver's side window of his vehicle.

Saum was jailed and is facing charges including burglary and criminal mischief.

He has been arrested in Orange and Lake counties for charges including disturbing the peace, resisting officers, larceny and battery.

He was shot by Lake County deputies Jan. 23, 2014, after taking a carving knife into the street and cutting himself with a "zombie" look. Officials said they were forced to shoot after Saum moved toward deputies and refused to drop the weapon.

"He's mentally ill and should be in a hospital," said his mother, Jackie Taylor, as she broke into tears. "This is what can happen because he's not mentally stable and shouldn't be living out in society. I just want him to get the help he needs. I don't want him to hurt anyone."

Taylor said Saum has been admitted to several facilities including a state hospital to treat his schizophrenia. He was released from a state mental-health facility last month after being involuntarily committed under the state's Baker Act.

She said her son constantly hallucinates and feels paranoid, which was part of the reason behind him attacking Babchyck. Taylor said Saum had been saying he feels society hates him.

"I've tried everything and don't know what to do," Taylor said.

Saum called his brother after the attack and told him what happened. His mother reported the crime to deputies.

"How sad is it that I feel he's safer in jail? What kind of mother wants to say that?" Taylor questioned. "He's the most loving, giving person. I just want him to get better."

Monday, March 7, 2016

The gaudy Lauren's Kids tour bus stops in Jacksonville FL and No Peace for Predators is NOWHERE to be found

Yesterday, Lauren Book brought her gaudy tour bus to Jacksonville FL. The Village People Bikers Against Child Abuse were there, but no surprisingly, the losers from No Peace For Predators were nowhere to be found. Gee, you'd think they'd be supporting another group or two claiming to want to stop child abuse?

Not one of these weekend warriors are from "No Peace For Predators"
I am sure they had more important things to do and just missed the event. You know, important things like cheer someone's death (a death that I wouldn't be surprised if they intentionally caused it):



Lets stop pretending that NPFP is a "child advocacy" group. I can't stand that skanky Smeagol-like Lauren Book, but she actually does other things besides cheer the death of people on Facebook. If there was such a thing as "karma" (there isn't), then NPFP would be overdue for some.

Thursday, January 21, 2016

Speaking of butthurt, it seems the trolls at "No Peace For Predators" are still whining and obsessing over AZUnites



It seems when one group of trolls get butthurt, the other trolls must have flashbacks from all the times AZUnites has made them look like the braindead wannabe biker gang that they are (maybe THIS POST did the real trick, and despite what the claim, none of these were edited). Whatever the case may be, the NP4P decided that somehow despite my nearly month-long vacation from the front lines, I've somehow still managed to give them traumatic flashbacks from all those times I bashed those fools. At any rate, here are the screenshots so you can have a good laugh at their expense. 





These vermin have been pretty quiet as of late, so my guess is these losers are desperate to stay relevant. The last time they've had any press was that time the "Campaign For Freedom" had David Rowe blubbering like a baby on ActionJax:

"According to Rowe, disgruntled sex predators are distorting his character on blogs and social media sites like Facebook. They call him a violent vigilante. Action News did some digging and discovered that Rowe was recently arrested for fighting at a local bar."

I guess somehow I edited Action Jax too? LOL. But I digress. Just what has NPFP actually accomplished, besides nothing? It is funny to read what the folks at NPFP post, seeing as how they weren't even on hand to support Lauren Book's march across FloriDUH last year. I was there, but they were not. It is interesting to note I have not seen a single FloriDUH vigilante marching with Lauren Book. After all, the Books stopped in Jacksonville. where is Valigator posing with the bimbo Book? How about Judy Cornett? What about Barbara Farris, or David tROWEll? or that "I'm so fat I can't find my Peter" Mason? And to think, they've missed an opportunity to bash me in person. I guess that's because we all know their goal is to bully, not to protect kids. 

Ironically, they think I've finally "crawled out from under my rock." Look around folks, I may have taken a bit of a sabbatical but I haven't been too gone. As for NPFP, I'd say they've been gone so long, no one knows if they ever existed to begin with. 

Personally, I love it when I see butthurt trolls crying about me. You losers have made me smile :)

... although, I can't let that little lie about me "saving pictures of children for perversions" slide. We all know Valigator made that one up. Tsk. Tsk. The clods just can't do anything right, can they?

Saturday, January 16, 2016

The crybabies over at "Sex Offender Updates' butthurt over AZUnites's earlier post. The truth hurts.


http://sexoffenderupdates.com/oops-we-pissed-off-a-sex-offender/

Apparently, the anonymous pussies over at that scammer's website "Sex Offender Updates" has been pissing and moaning over an earlier post I made on this blog

After reading their lame "response," it is painfully obvious the numbnuts who run the website lack reading comprehension skills. Here is their whiny response:

"In his blog post, Derek Logue referred to Sex Offender Updates as a 'scumbag wannabe vigilante group advocating the death penalty for those on the registry.' ​That is not accurate. We do not condone vigilantism. However, we have advocated for the death penalty. But, we have not said that all sex offenders on the registry should be executed. We don't think that all sex offenders deserve to be executed.​ So, here we have a guy who basically misstates and misrepresents our organization in his very first sentence."

They obviously can't read. (I never said they want to kill all sex offenders, either, so who is misrepresenting who?) They talk as if murders and assaults are the only forms of vigilante violence, but they neglect online vigilante violence as well. Harassment and death threats litter their FB page, and they are not condemning the comments or deleting the nasty remarks. The very existence of a website that posts defamatory and harassing information (info they borrowed from other dubious sites) about registrant activists, not just yours truly, is in itself the promotion of vigilante violence. 

These are just a few of the FB comments from the supporters of that site:






Any claims they don't promote vigilante violence is easily dispelled by the comments. After all, their scam site begs people to become "keyboard warriors." What a joke! 

Then there is this:

http://sexoffenderupdates.com/bring-back-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapists-a-how-to-guide-for-pissed-off-americans/

"If you think child rapists should get the death penalty, please sign up and join us in this fight. How come we do not execute these defective human beings when public opinion on this issue is about as unanimous as you could ever get in a nation of more than 300 million people?" (The"'Bandwagon" fallacy)

Their entire counterargument to AZUnites is this -- "So, here we have a guy who basically misstates and misrepresents our organization in his very first sentence. If that is how he is going to define us, why should we believe him when he defines his own sex offenses?" In other words, because I hurt their little feelings, I'm not to be believed. Cry me a river. No misrepresentation there. Here, SOU has engaged in the "Genetics" fallacy. 

Well, why believe them, I ask? After all, they use a FB "album" as evidence that low recidivism rates, as stated here:

http://sexoffenderupdates.com/reasontv-perpetuates-big-lie-about-sex-offenders-video/

"The argument that 95% of the sex offender population "never recommits a sex crime" is a lie... Sex Offender Updates would like to draw your attention a section of our website dedicated to exposing this lie. We call it the "Recidivist Spotlight" and we feature stories about sex offenders who were re-arrested or convicted of a sex crime more than three years after they were released from prison for their previous offense. We also have a photo album on our Facebook page dedicated to repeat offenders. Each one of these are specific examples of sex offenders whom Janice Bellucci says "never recommitted" a sex crime, even though we have it in black and white proving to you that she is wrong.​"

They obviously don't understand recidivism rates, but it is interesting how they think a FB album is going to prove numerous state and federal studies wrong. SOU has engaged i the "Anecdotal" fallacy. 

Without citing any evidence of most of their claims, they tried in vain to dispel the low recidivism rates: 

http://sexoffenderupdates.com/sex-offender-recidivism-rates-deconstructing-the-big-lie/

Here are the key points to remember whenever you hear anyone suggest that sex offenders re-offend at a rate of 5%:
  • That is only over a three year period, not their entire life (I've already explained that most recidivism occurs in the first three years but not all, but not every uses a three year study)
  • This only includes individuals who were re-arrested and we never get 100% of the criminals (this equally applies, perhaps even more so, to those without a prior record)
  • Sex crimes are the most underreported crime in America (A myth that has been debunked more than Bigfoot and the Chupacabra)
  • Sex offenders released from prison are likely to be more skilled at avoiding detection (Another uteer bullshit argument without any basis in fact)
  • Sex offenders usually have multiple victims (again, a load of bullshit. In fact, the number of individuals with multiple victims is extremely low). 

They are still promoting other lies like how we are all somehow connected to NAMBLA (the same BS spewed by other dubious online groups like Pee-J/ AZU):



Of course, they even admit the following:

http://sexoffenderupdates.com/attorney-compares-sex-offenders-to-jews-in-nazi-germany/

"Unfortunately, I have yet to see any mainstream media piece connect the dots and highlight the fact that the RSOL organization was co-founded by an admitted pederast who also helped found NAMBLA several decades ago." 

Gee, do you think it had to do with the fact that the only source for this outlandish claim is OTHER DUBIOUS WEBSITES? Perhaps it is because for all the flaws of the mainstream media, many reporters at least attempt to use VALID references and not junk found on the internet. If you believe everything you read online, next thing you'll know, you're off to join the Reptile Jesus cult. At this point, i'm waiting for the SOU FB page to be filled with "like and share with 10 people or the ghost of Megan Kanka will kill you" or whatever stupid shit FB users do these days. 

It is obvious the people at SOU can't be trusted to tell the truth about ANYTHING. 

By the way, if they're butthurt over Janice Bellucci's comparison between US sex offender laws and Nazi Germany (another thing I've discussed a decade ago, I might add), then I bet they're beside themselves over THIS ARTICLE by the Washington Post

I guess they'll be looking for a new Mailboxes Etc. to try to scam funds from the Facebook sheeple in the near future.