Houston-Based Vigilante group "Predator Poachers" does not like a dose of their own medicine

It seems the Houston-based Predator Poachers group does not want people to know about their racist and homophobic rhetoric or about Alex Rosen's DWI arrest, something Rosen himself posted online.

Since Google supports vigilante violence by allowing these losers to keep their Youtube channel up, the original info was posted elsewhere.

https://www.pedopoachers.com/wp/

I'm also posting info about this group at my main website. Predator Poachers deserve the same amount of shame and ridicule they try to post about others.

ADDENDUM: It seems Alex Rosen is all butthurt and decided the only thing he can do since he can't hide what is already out there is to make yet another ho-hum vigilante blog trying to shame me. Aw, poor baby!

What is funny is Alex Rosen is attempting to portray himself as the victim of harassment when he reached out to me while attempting (very poorly) to impersonate an attorney, claiming reposting what he stated himself online then republished online was "slander" and "libel". Reposting info that was published by the source is far from either, and any real attorney would know that. He also kept referring to himself as "my client." So yes, he was impersonating an attorney. After telling his fat ass I would not

After I refused to remove the information that was legally allowed to be posted, he sent me a barrage of phone calls, which I have saved. It appears Alex has used a number masking service. After the first call from an 832 (Houston) area code, he called from a restricted number, then from a 346 area code, then from a 209 area code, then from a 949 area code, all within an 11 minute spam. At least one of the numbers were for a West Coast escort service. He tried early the next day to call from the same 832 area code number, and at that point, I blocked that number.

I have sent Alex Rosen's scummy group a cease and desist email (that part he was too afraid to share online), so they've had the good sense not to contact me since then, but they go around the internet crying because they got a taste of what it is like to be outed, which is what they like to do with others. The Houston PD should arrest these losers but until vigilante actions are outlawed, they'll continue to create their crappy videos attacking people they have entrapped online.

Since Google is taking their side and limiting the info posted here even though it meets every legal definition of fair use, I will continue to assist the one who made the "Pedopoachers" site exposing Alex Rosen's Predator Poachers group.

Interestingly, Alex Rosen and fiends accused me of doxxing them when I merely posted the info that is publicly accessible online, including the DUI arrest Alex Rosen himself posted as proof of his arrest. Of course, he's posted plenty of my personal info online along with false allegations, so he just made himself civilly liable. Soon, he'll find out the real meaning of slander when he is the one having to go to court over it.

ADDENDUM -- As noted in a 3/18/20 article on online vigilante groups by "The Verge", " All of Predator Poacher’s videos (save one recent upload) are currently unavailable to the public on YouTube; the channel received its second strike from YouTube on a video titled “LGBT couple confronts predator” on grounds of harassment and bullying, and Alex stated in a live stream on the Predator Poachers side account, PP Pranks, that he had set all of the channel’s videos to private to lay low."

Fremont Ohio Vigilante group "Dads Against Predators" do not want to be called vigilantes, despite being a vigilante group.

It is a common theme-- vigilante thugs post "busts" on social media, and the police claim they don't condone this ehavior yet allow these thugs to continue operating. Phillip "Flip" Conley and Joshua Mundy claim they aren't vigilante scumbags but even the news article admits they fit the bill. They also want to push for castration and death penalty laws, so these two are pretty sick in the head.

https://www.thenews-messenger.com/story/news/local/2020/01/24/dads-against-predators-shining-light-sexual-predator-issues-fremont/4567322002/

Local group wants to rid Fremont of sexual predators

Craig Shoup, Fremont News-Messenger
Published 5:20 p.m. ET Jan. 24, 2020

Men pose online as teen boys to lure suspects to a meeting site

FREMONT - Three men are trying to shed light on a sexual predator problem in Fremont by luring potential sex offenders to a rendezvous site by posing as teen boys, then videotaping the suspects.

But Joshua Mundy and Phillip "Flip" Conley of the group Dads Against Predators do not want to be called vigilantes.

The two, along with a third man who does not want to be identified, are trying to spotlight a problem they say can happen in any community.

"We don't want any copycats. And don't harass the families," Mundy said of what DAP does.

Though they don't call themselves vigilantes, they could be considered such, as Webster's Dictionary defines a vigilante as "a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate)."

During a Thursday press conference, Fremont Police Chief Dean Bliss said the group has shined an unfortunate light on predatory issues going on in Fremont, but said he does not encourage that type of justice, because of legal issues.

"I think their hearts are in the right place," Bliss said.

Acting Sandusky County Prosecutor Zak Selvey said  there is "significant" evidentiary concerns about these videos being used against suspects in three videos DAP has posted on YouTube.com.

"For a crime to occur, there's a statute in Ohio called the importuning statute which is what we believe cases like these fall under, and it creates issues if the person involved is not a law enforcement officer or actual minor child," Selvey said.

On Tuesday, the group Dads Against Predators posted a video on YouTube in which they confronted Rafael Valadez-Loera, 39, at the Walmart on Ohio 53 in Fremont after the group said they used dating applications and posed as a 14-year-old boy to lure the man to the store to meet for sexual relations.

The video went viral, getting 98,800 views in less than three days.

Valadez-Loera was charged with tampering with evidence, though Bliss did not say if the charges were related to the DAP case.

Two other videos surfaced on the DAP YouTube page, each highlighting men they messaged through apps for sex.

Mundy said he's married with three children and wanted to shine the light on predatory problems in Fremont after discovering videos of similar group in Connecticut called POP (Prey on Predators).

He was inspired to get involved in Fremont by a 2018 case in which police investigated an attempted abduction at Hayes Elementary School

And it has worked for Mundy and Conley, who stay up late, keeping their "fishing pole" online in hopes of catching a big fish.

"They are like fishes," Mundy said about the men they message. "They go away and then 15 minutes later, they're back."

And once the group has the fish hooked, it does not take long to set the wheels in motion to confront the men who are planning sexual relations with what they think is a teen boy.

Mundy said he's sacrificed time with his family to continue working to out potential predators, but the time is well spent if another potential sex offender is outed on the group's YouTube page.

He said he understands the risks involved in meeting strangers, but Mundy said it is more nerves than fear when meeting the men they've lured to the rendezvous.

Mundy said DAP will continue working on outing potential predators but said they will not be partnering with the Fremont Police Department.

"We just want to clean Fremont out," Mundy said of sexual predators.

He added his goal is to see harsher punishment for predators, including chemical castration and the death penalty.

Since the group has begun, Mundy estimates he has received messages from at least 100 people, though not all are from Fremont.

Another vigilante group, "Backwoods Predator Hunters". Facebook is becoming a vigilante's playground.

Yet another group of Online Vigilantes. Not surprisingly, one of their logos has ties to hate groups, too. Cody Harris, who created the group, wears more Confederate battle flag junk in his videos and on a related Facebook page, "Backwoods Livin."

I've stated here in the past the Facebook encourages vigilante violence, and last year, Facebook made headlines for officially allowing death threats against registered persons or those accused of sexual offenses in their terms of service. When viewing this Backwoods Predator Hunters page, Facebook recommended many other online vigilante groups.

http://www.emissourian.com/local_news/crime/washington-man-confronts-suspected-sexual-predators---posts-encounters/article_50c5d0b4-2e59-11ea-b66b-d33ec4f5ba00.html

Washington Man Confronts Suspected Sexual Predators - Posts Encounters Online
By Gregg Jones, Missourian Staff Writer 21 hrs ago

Cody Harris, founder of Backwoods Predator Hunters, said he and his group partners are trying to make the community safer.

That’s why the group has outed suspected sex offenders, and then shamed then online.

Harris’ most recent encounter with a suspected predator was posted Dec. 28 on his Backwoods Predator Hunters page.

He said he spoke with a man, who thought he was meeting a 15-year-old girl, and who was already wanted by police.

“At least these guys are getting exposure,” said Harris, 28. “This guy had been to prison and police have a better idea where he is with me on his tail.

“I have helped (police) out using my own time and I am not getting in their way.”

The Missourian is not releasing the names of the people who Harris encounters because they have not been charge for the incidents.

Harris has been in contact with about eight people in as many months that he has been posting to the Backwoods Predator Hunters page.

In another recent sting involving Harris, posted Dec. 7, a Washington man thought he was contacting a 15-year-old. In actuality, the person he was messaging, the decoy, was an adult, according to Harris.

A video on the Backwoods Predator Hunters page shows Harris confronting the man at a Washington restaurant. Harris said he has given all of the evidence from the encounter to the Washington police and the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office in case charges could be filed.

But state statutes dictate how sexual predators can be prosecuted, specifically during a sting operation.

Harris noted that he would like to see the suspected offenders held accountable for their actions, but his work still is important even though it has not yet yielded charges.

“I hope there are charges,” he said. “The best thing to do, other than get him charged, is expose him to the community.”

Harris noted that he has spoken to family members of the Washington man who were thankful for the information he provided.

“I had a meeting with his ex-wife’s family,” he said. “They had no idea — he never acted weird or different around children.”

Harris, a Washington native, said he got into tracking and encountering suspected sexual predators to bring more awareness to the dangers lurking online.

“A lot of this is to raise awareness,” he said. “These guys are all over. I want to make a difference in my community. To protect my kids and other kids in the community.”

Harris added that he works with two decoys to expose suspected predators.

“We all do it together — I could not do it without them,” he said. “If we continue to keep pushing, maybe we will make a difference. We have to try.”

Facebook Page

Before he formed the group, Harris would post on a Facebook page called “BackWoods LIVIN,” which is still in operation. It was on that page that he recently encountered a man who allegedly had been stalking and harassing multiple women.

Harris noted that there had not been allegations about the man being a sexual predator, but he still wanted to talk to him.

“I had gotten 50 to 100 messages about him from people in the community,” he said. “Women were saying he was coming to bus stops where they waited for children, their businesses … all of it was bad stuff.

“There was nothing positive to say about this man.”

Harris confronted him at his the man’s home, but to no avail. He said he would try again to confront him, this time in public.

According to Harris, some in the local law enforcement agencies have given their support for his work. He noted that for extra precaution he wears body armor in case the encounter becomes dangerous.

Legislation

In order for the work of Harris, and others like him, to result in charges there may need to be changes to state law.

Harris stated he is reaching out to legislators to discuss ways to change statutes that will allow more flexibility for groups exposing predators.

“That is what we are working toward now,” he said. “I am in the process of getting a hold of them and setting up a meeting.”

State law requires an actual victim, not a decoy, for a crime to have been committed. However, there is an exception for law enforcement officers who portray minors.

RSMO 566.151 states that anyone age 21 or over who “persuades, solicits, coaxes, entices or lures” a child less than 15 years old “for the purpose of engaging in sexual conduct” is breaking state law.

However, the statute continues, that the case still can be prosecuted if the “other person was a peace (police) officer masquerading as a minor.”