AZU ENCOURAGES VIGILANTISM! So Does Family Watchdog!

AZU denies they promote vigilante violence, but below is an exchange I had via IM by one AZ member who set up an anonymous account just to harass me:


myaccount238: If there is another Ohio rally, I will drive there to spit in your
face
me: That would be a big mistake
myaccount238: we'll see how tough you are quiverteeth
me: Better bring backup
me: By the way spitting is assault
me: You'd be arrested on the spot
Me: Your husband would be so jealous

(Thanks for being stupid AZU by the way. By the way they did call me "great"-- Thanks for the compliments LOL

myaccount238: You will win in court, sue everyone, and live happily ever after
myaccount238: ***** the great
Me: That's the plan
Me: Thanks for admitting I'm great)

By the way, AZU is pretty open about encouraging vigilantism. For example, AZU numbnut Carisma came to the rescue of Travis Metcalf, a man who was cited for disorderly conduct for threatening a sex offnder in public:

http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comments

Metcalf admits he lost control of his emotions.
“I was screaming at the top of my lungs at him,” said the 34-year-old Metcalf, a husband and a father of three children, ages 14, 12 and 5. “I ended up getting a ticket for disorderly conduct out of the deal.”

And Travis Metcalf should have gotten more, in my opinion, to teach people a hard lesson about vigilante violence. And he isn't learning his lesson:

"Despite his June 25 court date, Metcalf said he is keeping the pressure on Larsen by distributing fliers with Larsen’s picture and identifying information, and Metcalf is attempting to organize a 'parent watch' to raise public awareness. "

So it is NO surprise he fits in with AZU. So says Carisma:

By carimsa
May 11, 2008 10:14 PM
"Any parent would have done the same thing as Metcalf. He didn't assault him, he called him on it! Thank god he did."

No, any good parent would have called the cops and presented evidence of the former offender's improprieties. Not only is vigilante violence illegal, but DANGEROUS! Oh but there's more:

http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61312103

By BRD
May 12, 2008 10:38 AM Link to this
"We (that count) are all behind you, Travis Metcalf! Let us know what you need." Yep! Keep up the good work! Travis hurt no one and only saved a child! [Note: He only hurt no one because the cops showed up]

http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61334803

By Stitches77
May 12, 2008 11:12 AM
Metcalf is a hero and it appears the only people who don't realize it are guys who would think there's nothing wrong with lurking outside a preschool hiding in a bush.

http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/05/08/050908_1a_sex_offender.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=7#comment-61163403

By Stitches77
May 12, 2008 4:23 AM Link to this
Shouting at a man who is hiding in a bush outside a preschool is Not harassment.

These people don't seem to understand you just don't get a citation for "doing the right thing." Getting up and threatening a person is NOT "doing the right thing." CALLING THE COPS WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING WRONG IS THE RIGHT THING!

Think about THIS folks, why is it Absolute Zero United hides their identity? Why aren't they touted as "heroes" for their work? Because cyberstalking, abuse of the registry, harassment, and threats of violence are ILLEGAL, that's why. They are CRIMINALS, plain and simple. Thugs.

By the way, why would a site like Family Watchdog tell people the first thing to do is to get up in people's faces. Read the article again:

Steve Roddel, president and CEO of Family Watchdog, said the 3-year-old site is updated throughout the day with the latest information available. He said he is unable to chastise people like Metcalf who use the site as a tool to protect their children and their community.
“It would be awfully hard for me to find fault with someone who is out trying to protect his community,” Roddel said.
He added that if a convicted sex offender is displaying high-risk behaviors, like hanging out at parks and schools with a puppy, that person should be confronted and made aware that he is being watched.
Tell them you know who they are, and, ‘You are not going to do it on my watch,’ ” Roddel said. “I wouldn’t necessarily call it overreacting.”

What happened to "if you see a crime call the police?" Duh. Someone shove the Watchmutt's nose in the shit they're shoveling! What if that guy had been packing heat? You don't just get up in a guy's face, that's a potentially dangerous situation. Hell, pull out a video camera, take pics, turn over to police, and the guy would have been in jail. Simple as 1-2-3! Of course, leave it to Family Watchdog and Absolute Zero United to put two and two together and only come up with three!

Oh yeah, one last thing, someone pointed out that I needed to add the following:

Note: The following information is provided as an awareness tool so that you can adequately protect yourself and your children from these individuals. The use of the sex offender registry information to harass, endanger, intimidate, threaten or in any way seek retribution on an offender through illegal channels is prohibited. Any person who engages or participates in such acts may be charged criminally."

And on the FamilyWatchDog TOS, it states:"Harassment, stalking, or threatening anyone on this list likely violates your state law and is neither condoned nor encouraged by Family Watchdog, its directors or employees."

So its not only illegal to use the registry info to harass people, it violates the Family Watchmutt TOS too! Then Roddel contradicts his own company. A classic!

The Common Thread

Today, I thought we'd play a fun game. Anyone who knows me knows I'm not a fan of Mark Lunsford. Well, if you haven't heard, Lunsford's 18 year old son, Joshua, was arrested for sexual conduct with a 14 year old girl. Now Lunsford speaks out AGAINST "Romeo and Juliets" (where he never did before) being sex offenses.



http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2007/05/31/jessica-lunsford%E2%80%99s-brother-accused-of-sex-crime/





Court records indicate that the teenager allegedly put his hands down the pants of his 14-year-old girlfriend while they were kissing. Because the alleged incidents occurred less than two months after Joshua turned 18, he has been charged with a fourth degree felony.
The girl’s father pleaded guilty earlier this year to trying to choke Joshua.
Mark Lunsford has been quoted as saying that his son’s arrest doesn’t compare with the pedophiles whom he has helped to put in prison. “We’re talking about Romeo and Juliet here, not some 36-year-old pervert following around a 10-year-old”, Lunsford told a Florida newspaper. He is not the boy’s custodial parent and the boy does not live with him.
When asked how he felt about his son being labeled a sex offender if he was convicted, Lunsford said that “we have to learn to distinguish between Romeo and Juliet and a predator. We need to redefine the term ‘sex offender’, not ‘predator’”.

I brought this up not to debate that issue. I want you to compare that to the comments AZU mmber Petra Luna made on 20/20 back on March 14, 2008 (The corrupted- justice link is a transcript of the segment):



http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel (go to videos, look for "Vigilante Justice")



http://www.corrupted-justice.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9204



Stossel-- Arent some people on the registries kids who at age 16 had sex with another kid?

Peta Luna-- [rolls eyes] Yeah [sighs and shifts in chair] but that's not very likely, but it does happen and yes it-it-you know kids do end up you know one is right on the edge of the age and one is right on the edge of the age yes it does happen

Stossel-- They get put on the registry with 40 year old rapists

Petra Luna-- yeah but what are you gonna do? I mean its too bad that they have those things going on but its a necessary evil



Then, of course, AZU offers up this little gem:



http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/2008/03/common-thread.html



"Watch for someone who defends an 18 year old for having sex with a 14 year old, then when asked the question "Would you have done it if she had been 12?" the response being "Oh NO, absolutely not, there must be a 'line' somewhere" Completely overlooking the fact that there WAS a line and it was crossed.



All those things are known as spin. Those are things you need to watch out for. Spin is an unethical manipulation of factual information to make something appear to mean something that in reality it does not mean.Spin is evil.Spin is enabling behavior.The Antis won't stand for it."



So AZU recognizes that the 18 year old having sexual contact with his 14 year old girlfriend on the 20/20 show was crossing a line. You have to watch for someone who defends this behavior. But yet, Mark Lunsford just did the same thing, stating his 18 year old son french kissing and fondling a 14 year old, and AZU is amazingly quiet about the issue.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/absolutezero/5807725979958780816/

"Hasn't the Lundsford family been through enough?" Daydreamer of Oz

So let me get this straight. You CONDEMNED Patty Wetterling, who has NEVER received closure for a kidnapped son, claiming she has a sex offender son. But Mark Lunsford has "suffered enough." If you goggle Patty Wetterling, you find no scandals attached to her name. However, if you google Mark Lunsfords name, a number of controversies will come up:

• Child Porn on his computer
• Questionable use of funds and gifts to the Jessica Marie Lunsford Foundation
• His recent lawsuit diected at the sheriff
• And don't forget the defense of his son after charged with a sex offense

Yet, they lambaste someone for questioning Lunsford's motives:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/absolutezero/5193128263467108490/

******* is a complete Sociopath and her recent actions illustrate just how "reformed" she is.What a sick example of psychology she is, attacking the parents of children who were murdered and sexually abused; harassing, threatening and libeling innocent people with allegations of child pornography and child molestation. Someone so senseless and devoid of boundaries belongs in either a prison or a mental hospital.jacey

http://imposteralert.blogspot.com/search/label/Mark%20Lunsford

Petra Luna's chief space cadet denounces anti-Lunsford sites, and states its perfectly okay to be involved in controversy.

http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/andrew-“billy”-berg-repeat-sex-offender-child-predator-released-into-the-community/

"I don’t know anyone named Josh Junsford. But if you’re talking about Josh Lunsford he’s a perfect example of how very few people are put on the sex offender registry for having teenaged sex."

Well VigilantAnti, do you know him or not? Its not like it wasn't mentioned in every true crime, RSO, and curent events blog in the country

So why is it Lunsford hasn't been dragged through the ringer like they have done to so many others? Maybe this is the reason:

http://206.130.112.50/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/archive/JMLFoundation/20060709133402/

WASP "Women Against Sexual Predators" A new and vibrant proactive subcommittee called WASP has been added to the Jessica Marie Lunsford Foundation.For more information.Please contact Penny Verde at usa4jmllaw@yahoo.com or call 1.888.4jmllaw

Yep. Tracy Golden (WASP Ohio) is connected to Lunsford, Tracy is also connected to AZU. AZU is connected to PJ and Wikisposure. WASP Ohio contributes to both places. Xavier Von Erck posts comments at AZ. The sites link to one another very intimately, refer to each other, etc.

AZU warns us about people who defend 18 year olds who mess with 14 year olds, but they stand by their man Lunsford. Sounds a bit like hypocrisy to me. Either you CONDEMN an action or you DENOUNCE an action. Will AZU continue to stand by Mark Lunsford?

Hypocrisy is evil.

Hypocrisy is enabling behavior.

The anti-antis won't stand for it!

Give me what I want and I will go away

Finally, after two and a half weeks of running this little operation, the AZU crew finally tried to post a response up at this site. Sorry but I had to reject your post. But now that I have your attention, y'all, I have a few demands if you want this silly war to end.

It is no fun when you get a taste of our own medicine, is it now? For months you have attacked people whose only "crime" was speak out against a series of oppressive laws directed at former offenders. You mock their looks. You laugh at their plight. You call them "pedoheads/freaks," do silly videos and posts at your site and work hand in hand with the PJ cult. You put activists against these oppressive laws or anyone who isn't as zealous as you in killing all sex offenders in the same breath as NAMBLA and Boy/Girl love or whatever the hell its called (apparently you guys spend a lot of time there).

Anyways, your hypersensitivity has led you to some interesting observations. You evade straight questions, opting instead to goad us into coming to your hate site. AZU has no helpful info, just hate and idiotic comments; sometimes I wonder if you make up the "enemies" that post there. You spin everything so much I wonder if you can read anything straight. Seriously, AZU needs professional help.

There are many people who have suffered all sorts of terrible things in their lives. It is sad, it is wrong and it is unfair. But that gives you NO RIGHT to project your anger onto others. That makes you a criminal no matter what your reasons are.

That being said, the only way Unites will disappear is when I see you stop attacking former offenders who are not re-offending. I will stop when you stop engaging in criminal harassment, stalking, and threatening others, infringing on their privacy, and chasing them all over the internet. Only then will I go away. If you put that effort into teaching prevention and accountability rather than in trying to hurt others, we would be far closer to a solution to reducing sexual violence in America. Instead, you take the low road, harassing and trying to intimidate others. You tricks don't work with me. I am not intimidated by you.

AZUnites merely does what you have done to others. Isn't not so fun now is it? If it hurt you, imagine what it has done to others. But that's how I see what you do. You hurt others, for what reasons, I don't care. Its no excuse. Bottom line, when you straighten up and become the victim advocate you CLAIM to be rather than the cyberthugs you are, then I'll be happy to call a truce. Until then AZUnites! is here to stay.